Robbin, It's a roulette wheel kind of thing - I am very biased (dumb) and stubborn, so once in a awhile my version of reality actually aligns with the truth - like betting 'red' / 'black' - you get lucky every once in ten. If your trailer is a 1978 - (why go here) I would think it is either a Trail-Rite or an E-Z'Loader/ Ask Dr. JM or better yet the trailer title may have manufacturer listed. Get out there and go sailing - I am trying to schedule appointments so I have Wednesday cleared for that activity! Take Care, Have Fun, Go Sailing GO Hello my name is Gary, and I am afflicted with WBAS.* *WrinkleBoat Acquisition Syndrome yeah Sean - seems you got it too! Bones,Stan,Robbin, you know who you are - looks like Bert got the cure or contracted catititus or something like that?