Sent from my iPad > On Jun 4, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Steve Trapp wrote: > > Looked at the centerboard on my 1985 M-15 this A.M., it was fully retracted with a small gap between the keel and the trailer rollers. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- From: casioqv@usermail.com > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 6:31 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard > > Weird, to my knowledge, I don't think the centerboard is supposed to fit fully into the keel on an M15. The amount shown in the photo is the centerboard fully retracted on my boat, and my new lead centerboard fits the same. It was absolutely impossible to budge with any of the several methods I tried before this. > > Could you send photos of the centerboard and area looking up into the trunk on your boat? > > Sincerely, > Tyler > > > From: "Steve w" > To: "casioqv" > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 6:24:45 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard > > Mine is flush with the keel. Did you manage to pull yours out that far or was it already sticking out that much > > On Jun 3, 2017 9:19 PM, < [ mailto:casioqv@usermail.com | casioqv@usermail.com ] > wrote: > > > See attached. I drilled holes in the exposed part of the centerboard, and bolted on stock steel from a hardware store. Everything used here is 100% standard hardware store parts. Again, Captain Jim Sadler was the person who first thought of this general method, which I followed. > > Sincerely, > Tyler > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve w" < [ mailto:m35nc1@gmail.com | m35nc1@gmail.com ] > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < [ mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com | montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com ] > > Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 4:35:08 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard > > Tyler please send the pictures when you get a chance. I don't know what > else to do with it > >> On Jun 3, 2017 10:14 AM, < [ mailto:casioqv@usermail.com | casioqv@usermail.com ] > wrote: >> >> Early M15 centerboards were made with steel punchings as ballast, and >> water would gradually encroach in. As the punchings rust, they expand in >> volume locking the centerboard in place, and it won't reverse from drying >> the boat out. It can become stuck very hard, and requires building a puller >> tool to remove properly. I can send you photos of what I did to get it out >> if you decide yours needs it. I used a threaded rod to pull it out, based >> on a design by Captain Jim, also on this list. I wish I had tried that >> method first, as trying the metal rod method made the job 5x as much work >> as it would have been otherwise. >> >> My boat also hadn't been in the water for over a decade when I purchased >> it, and it was because of the stuck centerboard... normally the centerboard >> is quite loose on these boats, and will drop easily under it's own weight. >> >> Sincerely, >> Tyler >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve w" < [ mailto:m35nc1@gmail.com | m35nc1@gmail.com ] > >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > [ http://xmission.com/ | xmission.com ] > >> Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 7:05:28 AM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard >> >> What would cause the centerboard to swell. It hasn't been in water for >> years >> >> On Jun 3, 2017 10:03 AM, < [ mailto:casioqv@usermail.com | casioqv@usermail.com ] > wrote: >> >> Be really careful with that method, only a very small amount of pressure >> can be applied safely with a rod. I tried this when I had a truly swollen >> centerboard, and had to tap the rod with a hammer. The rod went straight >> through the centerboard, and slipped sideways damaging the hull... without >> budging the centerboard. >> >> Sincerely, >> Tyler >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > [ http://xmission.com/ | xmission.com ] > >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > [ http://xmission.com/ | xmission.com ] > >> Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 5:52:53 AM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard >> >> Steve, >> A friend of mine used to have the issue of a sticking board because of >> small pebbles and debris washing down the drain hole. He used a narrow push >> rod to apply pressure from the topside to get the board to move. If course >> he knew it was stuck from debris and not a swollen trunk. I hope it's not >> due to rusting steel punches. >> >> Skip >> M-15 #201 >> Wild Guppy >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jun 3, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Dave Scobie < [ mailto:scoobscobie@gmail.com > | scoobscobie@gmail.com ] > wrote: >> > >> > Oh. >> > >> > Could be jammed ... Or could be rusting and swelled. >> > >> > When I have a real internet connection, currently traveling so on >> > smartphone, I'll look in archives for discussion on how to push the > board >> > down if stuck from Rock, mud, shells, etc. Or someone may share methods >> > prior. >> > >> > I hope it isn't rusting. >> > >> > >> > :: Dave Scobie >> > >> >> On Jun 3, 2017 6:12 AM, "Steve w" < [ mailto:m35nc1@gmail.com | >> m35nc1@gmail.com ] > wrote: >> >> >> >> The boat was in a garage for 10 years. The owner has passed. >> >> >> >>> On Jun 3, 2017 8:10 AM, "Dave Scobie" < [ mailto:scoobscobie@gmail.com >>> | scoobscobie@gmail.com ] > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Steve. >> >>> >> >>> Did the prior owner say the board was working? >> >>> >> >>> :: Dave Scobie >> >>> >> >>>> On Jun 3, 2017 5:27 AM, "Steve w" < [ mailto:m35nc1@gmail.com | >>>> m35nc1@gmail.com ] > wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks Steve that's what I thought, however with the boat in the >>>> water >> >>> and >> >>>> no tension on that line the centerboard still doesn't move. I swam >> >> under >> >>>> and tried to pry with a screwdriver. It doesn't move at all. I live >>>> NC >> >>> in a >> >>>> community called Seven Lakes. That's where I'll start sailing her but >> >> I'd >> >>>> like to do some coastal cruising eventually. >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Jun 2, 2017 10:59 PM, "Steve Trapp" < [ mailto:stevetrapp@q.com | >>>>> stevetrapp@q.com ] > wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Steve, >> >>>>> The centerboard on an M-15 is lowered by releasing the rope (line) >> >>>> that >> >>>>> is probably tied to a cleat on the seatboard across the cockpit at >> >> the >> >>>> aft >> >>>>> of the cabin. The centerboard cleat is next to the main-sheet cleat. >> >>>> Make >> >>>>> sure the release line (rope) is tied in the up position and securely >> >> to >> >>>> the >> >>>>> cleat before launching or outhauling your M-15 because any slack >>>>> will >> >>> get >> >>>>> the boat stuck on the trailer. >> >>>>> Where do you plan to sail your M-15, what body of water, what >> >> state? >> >>>>> Steve >> >>>>> M-15 # 335 >> >>>>> South Puget Sound >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Steve w >> >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:49 PM >> >>>>> To: [ mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com | >>>>> montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com ] >> >>>>> Subject: M_Boats: Centerboard >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I just purchased an M15 and I can't figure out how to lower the >> >>>>> centerboard. If someone knows where I can get an owner's manual I'd >> >>>>> appreciate that as well. Thanks, Steve >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > >