Thank you Murray and Rick, Rick, I have heard that the M-15 can be lifted from the chain plates. I am a bit apprehensive about it - they are mounted to the to rail, which is just an overlapping fiberglass fiberglass lip, and there isn't a whole lot of backing. I assume that most M-15s are constructed the same way, but mine doesn't look as if it's all that strong in that regard. I must say that I am scarcely an expert on evaluating the strenght of fiberglass. Murray - if you could send a picture, or a more detailed description of the lifting bridal that you use, it would be much appreciated. I take it that no one is worried about the compressive force across the the beam of the boat that would be exerted if lifting on a sling or by the chain plates. Thanks, Mark montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com wrote: Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hoist Launching an M-15 (murray@sonic.net) 2. First San Diego M17 Sail (Joe Balla) 3. Hoist Launching an M-15 (Rick Langer) 4. going price on M17 these days (Bruce Ward) 5. Re: First San Diego M17 Sail (TOMMYVAL@aol.com) 6. Lake Sailing in CA (Carlos) 7. Re: Gear Hammocks (Tom Smith) 8. Re: First San Diego M17 Sail (Tom Smith) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:46:20 -0700 From: murray@sonic.net Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hoist Launching an M-15 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Message-ID: <11131.1213465580@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } Mark: I launch an M15 with a hoist and hook. I made a bridle with a ring to lift the boat into and out of the water. Murray. On Sat 14/06/08 10:31 AM , Mark Delin fernandelin@sbcglobal.net sent: Hi Everyone, We have an M-15 and want to move it to a place that has a hoist launch with a hook, but no sling. Does anyone have experience in hoist launching a Montgomery that they would be willing to share? Thanks! Mark _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats [1] Links: ------ [1] http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:52:04 -0700 From: "Joe Balla" Subject: M_Boats: First San Diego M17 Sail To: Message-ID: <000e01c8ce47$5bd25510$6401a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" After five weeks of clean up of our new to us 1977 M17 (formerly Chica Buena), I launched Seranita yesterday in lights winds here in San Diego's Mission Bay. What a fun sailboat. Our kids took a few photos which I will share here and which includes a "before" shot of Chica Buena. I took a bunch of photos of my restore process which include the relocation and install of a new Garhauer traveler which will be shared with the group in the "tech" department. Off now to sail this afternoon! http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/sailingsd/Montgomery%2017%20First%2 0Sail/ Best, JB 1977 M17 "Seranita" Hull #232 San Diego ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:20:36 -0400 From: Rick Langer Subject: M_Boats: Hoist Launching an M-15 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <000a01c8ce5c$1b8010f0$6601a8c0@Rickscomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Mark, I haven't done it myself, but my friend, Abbey Gura has a 23 year old virtually perfect M15 that he routinely picks up from the trailer to the water by the chain plates. According to him, they are more than strong enough and being located amidships the boat is balanced when lifting from those two points. Later this summer I plan to cruise with him from his yacht club on the south shore of Long Island, NY where he uses this method of launching. I guess I'll be doing the same thing so I can let you know then how it worked. I believe he told me that when he bought the boat new, Jerry used this method to put the boat on the trailer. Maybe Jerry will comment on this method. Anyway, Abbey is a prudent sailor and I'm sure he wouldn't risk damage to his boat if he wasn't absolutely sure of this method. Rick M15 #337 Bluebird
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:31:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Delin Subject: M_Boats: Hoist Launching an M-15 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <939702.70410.qm@web82608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi Everyone,
We have an M-15 and want to move it to a place that has a hoist launch with a hook, but no sling. Does anyone have experience in hoist launching a Montgomery that they would be willing to share?
Thanks!
Mark
------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:30:57 -0700 From: Bruce Ward Subject: M_Boats: going price on M17 these days To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Time for me to pipe in on the value of Monty's. Last I looked, I have the oldest 17 in our registry at hull number 32 and recently purchased it in Washington - drove in excess of a thousand miles as well. I agree with Tim on this - a well found Monty gets bought at the price you are willing to pay. I paid my own premium but have no regrets since it was in good condition with newer sails, new standing and running rigging, new CF 500 snap furling, radio, auto this and that.... Bought a new trailer because the original was not up to muster. It has brakes which negate some of the issues around tow vehicle capacity from the earlier threads. Like all vintage boats, they need some attention and have their strengths and weaknesses. In my northern BC mountains there are numerous types of toys - quads, snowmobiles, power boats and a few sailboats too. At middle age, I figure that you should envision the life you want and get at it. For us, the Montgomery 17 is an excellent choice to be on the water. I don't have a web site developed but can send pics and experiences for others to ponder. The information contained in our group websites and a knowledge gained about what Lyle Hess designed dating back some 25 years also convinced me to get one. IMHO the M boats have the nicest looks and sailing properties in the trailerable field. I had a Potter 19 back in '94, a Halman 20 double end keelboat, and sailed a Bayfield 25 until coming back to trailer sailing - Bruce. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:38:46 EDT From: TOMMYVAL@aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: First San Diego M17 Sail To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 6/14/2008 1:52:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jbsails@gmail.com writes: http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/sailingsd/Montgomery%2017%20First%2 0Sail/ JB Beautiful job, great pics but the best part are those wide grins you and Pam are wearing. That says it all Gary Valetti M17 Bellerin **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:10:49 -0700 From: "Carlos" Subject: M_Boats: Lake Sailing in CA To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello All- I would like to try some lake sailing in Central CA. Any of you guys been to Lake Isabella or Cachuma Lake and can provide info. on sailing, camping, swimming, marinas, ramps, etc.? Can't find size of these lakes other than measured in acres, and was hoping to know miles wide and long. Any other suggestions on lakes with 4-6 hours of So. Cal.? I usually sail San Diego and my local lake, but am hoping for something a little different. Thanks, Carlos ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:43:10 -0700 From: "Tom Smith" Subject: Re: M_Boats: Gear Hammocks To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" Message-ID: <4e8a689b0806141643x331f17bfref593cc43a004484@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's something else your Dad made up, Jim. t On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:27 PM, wrote:
Sure! They are too small for a person, but about the right size for a monkey!
Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of James Poulakis Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 7:24 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Gear Hammocks
Does anyone else call them "monkey hammocks" or is this something else my dad made up?
Jim M-17 "Spirit"
On Jun 12, 2008, at 7:01 AM, Phil & Frances wrote:
Have any of you hung gear hammocks in the cabin of a M 15? Where did you hang them? What I mean is that I purchased the commercial hooks Defender sells for hammocks. Since there is no wood in the cabin, the only alternative I can see is to drill holes and through bolt them under the decks port and starboard. If you have some ideas, I am open to all possibilities. Phil
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------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:47:16 -0700 From: "Tom Smith" Subject: Re: M_Boats: First San Diego M17 Sail To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" Message-ID: <4e8a689b0806141647j365a42fgd1843be4ba894ebd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sweet job on the refurb, JB. Looks like fun. t ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 64, Issue 52 ************************************************