Bonnie, I saw Connie's reply which is great advice. I might also suggest that you look at Sean's contribution to the MSOG photo site that shows about working with epoxy at http://www.msogphotosite.com/GenMM.html. I did my own gel coat work so if you want to spray gel coat and have some experience with spayers it is pretty straight forward but having done that I am now convinced that I would have been better to go with a two part epoxy paint from an auto body shop. If you bring in your hatch cover they can color match. They could also possibly give you some tough up paint that you could paint it on then using some progressively finer grit sand paper 200 400 grit to buff it and blend in the repair. Please mail me off the list if you want more details. Thanks Robbin Bonnie Kostka wrote:
Any suggestion about repairing small but deep gashes in the hull. Also what to do about chipping on the edge or lip of the deck just above the hull . Just took my boat out of the water for the winter. Doing some of the repairs I've read about here.
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:13:49 -0400 From: david_hill@idg.com Subject: M_Boats: Blowholes and backflow To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID:
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I found pretty simple and satisfactory solutions to both these problems. I take a small strip of rag about an inch wide and four inches long, wrap it a couple of times around the centerboard rope and push it tight against the blowhole. I get a bit of hissing but no water. Of course by the end of the season the piece of rag could be mistaken for a biology experiment, but rags are cheap.
For the stern drains I simply bought a couple of 85-cent corks at the hardware store and stick them in before I leave the mooring. In the event I take on serious water (has happened a couple of times) I can just kick them out with my toe and things drain.
David Hill M17 619 Grouper
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Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:40:39 -0800 From: " Richard Everett " Subject: M_Boats: M17 leak To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <20071029154039.24878.qmail@coolhost77.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
We came up with a pretty simple plug for the "blowhole" effect in the M17 by slicing a piece of 2 inch long rubber tubing (something like the black rubber automotive fuel line tubing) which had an ID that was a tight fit around the line used to draw up the keel and had an OD that was a snug fit into the "blowhole". Actually, I trimmed a section of a piece of tubing that was too large to fit in the hole down a bit so that it would not get permanently stuck down in the hole. So all in all, it makes for a nice gasket to keep the water out of the cockpit.
Having said all that, we still get water in the cockpit because even in a mild chop water seems to flow in through the stern cockpit drain holes. They have backflow prevention devices inline, but for some reason a trickle will still flow through and after awhile there is around a half inch of water sloshing around in the aft section of the cockpit. It does get above this amount because then it starts draining back out. I was considering installing some sort of ball valve shutoff for the two drain lines, but it would be bad to forget to open them up and then get a serious amount of water suddenly in the cockpit. :-(
Maybe the solution is to always wear heavy rubber boots...
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:17:51 -0500 From: "Mike Frederick" Subject: RE: M_Boats: temporarily unsubscribe To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'"
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Martin,
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Message: 4 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:09:40 -0700 From: steve pearse Subject: M_Boats: boarding ladder To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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As a M-15 (1981 vintage) owner who plans to place a mooring buoy this spring, I've decided to mount a permanent boarding step/ladder. Any recommendations, re product line(s), best model(s)? Thanks in advance for whatever guidance folks might provide!
—Steve on Whidbey Island, WA
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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:18:04 -0700 From: Larry E Yake Subject: Re: M_Boats: boarding ladder To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <20071031.191804.3924.7.leyake@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Steve,
Randy Graves has a nice ladder on his M17 that would be good on your 15, too. Here's a copy of his message to someone else that was looking for a ladder.
Windline makes a 4-step folding ladder that was my choice for our M17.
See http://tinyurl.com/fvow7 for pictures. This ladder is used on the Potter 19, and last I checked was only available for purchase through International Marine. Here is the ladder listed for $160 on their web site http://www.westwightpotter.com/content/MiniShopProduct.phtml?0/0/177 .
I have a similar Windline model from West Marine, but it only has 3 steps.
Larry
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:09:40 -0700 steve pearse writes:
As a M-15 (1981 vintage) owner who plans to place a mooring buoy this
spring, I've decided to mount a permanent boarding step/ladder. Any
recommendations, re product line(s), best model(s)? Thanks in advance for whatever guidance folks might provide!
—Steve on Whidbey Island, WA
Steve Pearse sspearse@whidbey.com
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Message: 6 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 05:33:39 EDT From: EinkaufR43@aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: boarding ladder To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
My ladder choice just arrived yesterday. Ebay has Windline TT-3X 3 step ladders for $89.00 plus UPS of $16.00 CA to MI. This is a "Buy it Now, multiple auction directly through the manufacturer. They had six to sell of this model when I ordered mine last week, but I bet they know how to get more. Ron Stanton M-15 #249
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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:22:45 -0700 From: steve pearse Subject: Re: M_Boats: boarding ladder To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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Ron, thanks very much for taking the time to send this info my way. I appreciate it!
—Steve on Whidbey
On Nov 1, 2007, at 2:33 AM, EinkaufR43@aol.com wrote:
My ladder choice just arrived yesterday. Ebay has Windline TT-3X 3 step ladders for $89.00 plus UPS of $16.00 CA to MI. This is a "Buy it Now, multiple auction directly through the manufacturer. They had six to sell of this model when I ordered mine last week, but I bet they know how to get more. Ron Stanton M-15 #249
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Message: 8 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:27:37 -0700 From: steve pearse Subject: Re: M_Boats: boarding ladder To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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Thanks much for the information, Larry. I appreciate your taking the time to do so!
—Steve on Whidbey
On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:18 PM, Larry E Yake wrote:
Steve,
Randy Graves has a nice ladder on his M17 that would be good on your 15, too. Here's a copy of his message to someone else that was looking for a ladder.
Windline makes a 4-step folding ladder that was my choice for our M17.
See http://tinyurl.com/fvow7 for pictures. This ladder is used on the Potter 19, and last I checked was only available for purchase through International Marine. Here is the ladder listed for $160 on their web site http://www.westwightpotter.com/content/MiniShopProduct.phtml? 0/0/177 .
I have a similar Windline model from West Marine, but it only has 3 steps.
Larry
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:09:40 -0700 steve pearse writes:
As a M-15 (1981 vintage) owner who plans to place a mooring buoy this
spring, I've decided to mount a permanent boarding step/ladder. Any
recommendations, re product line(s), best model(s)? Thanks in advance for whatever guidance folks might provide!
—Steve on Whidbey Island, WA
Steve Pearse sspearse@whidbey.com
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Message: 9 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:25:48 -0700 From: "Roberta Dvorscak" Subject: RE: M_Boats: name change Buttercup To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'"
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There is already a yellow hulled Montgomery 15 in Port Townsend Wa. sporting the name of Buttercup. I know there are lots of boats with the same name but just thought I'd chime in on the chance that you might want to know.
Mark Dvorscak
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Hi Bobby,
..... or "Buttercup"?
Connie
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