Bill Now that sounds like a great place to visit.............. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Years ago, when we lived in Europe I organized a trip to United Aircraft's solid rocket engine plant in Sunnyvale, CA. A friend there, knew I was a sailor so he organized a sail on SF Bay. We departed from a Marina which must have be near the baseball stadium, and sailed to Sausalito. There we had dinner. Later the children went to sleep in the forward berths, (10 hour time difference from Germany) while we had the most memorable night sail imaginable. Full moon. Not a cloud in the sky. Temperature - pleasant We had a broad reach from Sausalito all the way back to the Marina. All of SF lit up (just for us). Talk about a memorable sail! We still talk about it and savor it! Connie