I use a method similar to what Mark describes below. I've mounted a small jam cleat on the bottom of my tiller (jam side forward, about a foot back from the business end of the tiller). I fashioned a couple of bungee loops about a foot in diameter and connect them with a couple feet of line sized to work with the jam cleat. The bungee loops go over the M15's stern cleats and the line stretched between them is pulled forward and captured by the jam cleat. It's simple to build (no moving parts unless you count bungee cord), cheap (a jam cleat will cost you 10 bucks and bungee and line another couple more) and quickly and easily adjustable. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar -----Original Message----- From: Mark Escovedo [mailto:m_escovedo@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:01 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller Hello Jesse You might try Bungee chord for a tiller tamer. I've used this method on my boat. Different chord diameters effect the stiffness. I have a M17 flushdeck so attachment is no problem on the perforated toerail. As for the M15 I'm not familiar with the cockpit area so I can't offer any help there. Mark Escovedo M17 Flushdeck "Chunky Dory" ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Tate <mailto:gunsblazing@charter.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: M_Boats: Tiller I read where several of you had converted to the J 24 tiller for your M 15's. What is the length of the tiller? Also, any suggestions for tiller tamers? Thanks, Jesse M 15 Carolyn J _____ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _____ This message was scanned for viruses.