Hi Tyler, The answer to your question is"no". I made all possible stay alterations as I have turnbuckles on all three stays.No success. The vang and sheet approach give a little help.Thanks for your comments. RTH. -----Original Message----- From: casioqv@usermail.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 1:33 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Furler Can you shorten the rear stays and rake the mast rearward? Also it should tighten more if you crank down on the vang and mainsheet. Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hall" <bert.hall@bell.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 8:57:45 AM Subject: M_Boats: Furler Hello All, I have a CDI furler on my M-15 and even though my shrouds are attached at the after chain plate holes I can’t seem to get the furler taut.In fact there is a little forward rake in the mast at the present setting. Of course our 15’s have no back stays which would probably solve the slackness problem.Any helpful advice? RTH.