Ah! Now I understand the purpose of the light bar in your pics, Tod. Very clever. I like it. I added an extra keel roller to my Trailrite last season. I figured the part of the trailer that supports most of the boat's weight should have more support. I had a "mirror" roller welded on opposite the original: Looks like stock equipment. ----- Original Message ----- From: <htmills@bright.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: Two Questions Honshells wrote: I still don't have my boat handy: What is the length and weight of the older M17's Trailrite trailer? Which lighting kit would you Trailrite owners recommend? Can you find the appropriate kit at one of the discount mega-retailers (WalMart, etc.)? Thanks! p.s. If you don't subscribe to G.O.B., run out and get the latest copy from your local news-stand or West Marine. Great piece on the M23 . . . Also features the Rob Roy 23', a very cool boat . . . Hi, Craig don't know the weight/dims of the trailer offhand, besides, mine has been modified from the original with extra keel rollers (4 now instead of 1) and keel guides and a slightly longer and heavier tongue. I keep meaning to weigh mine one of these days; somehow other stuff always cuts in line. :-) Near as I can tell it doesn't matter a whole lot about the lights. I have yet to see a truly "waterproof" one, so before I went with a removeable light bar (which I like very much) I made it a point to unplug the lights when starting to set up so that they would have time to cool down so they wouldn't crack with the cold water. Now I use my pvc pipe lightbar which has thus far been trouble free (a season's use). Tod