Thank you so much for responding. Do you have any idea about durability for a M 17 kick up rudder from this company? I was in a way dreading making a kick up rudder but this solution appears to be well worth the expence. I want to get the 17 ready by the first weekend in May as there is a get together at Cedar Key near the bend in Florida ( just above Tampa) . Thanks Lou ________________________________ From: "ndorf@surfbest.net" <ndorf@surfbest.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 2:55:17 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model. Hi Louis, Another rudder option for you is that John Owens at J.O. Woodworks can make you a beautiful new one (as he had done for me). John will also be at Havasu, as he was last year. His website is at http://www.jowoodworks.com And you can get his contact information there. Neil Dorf 1985 M15 "TwoCan" Roseville, CA Original Message: ----------------- From: Louis Remmers louremmers@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:21:33 -0800 (PST) To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model. YES new holes were drilled and a motor mounting plate was installed. The transom did very well and i was pleased with the outcome. I am now trying to figure out how to make a kick up rudder. The origional had MANY knicks and gouges and I have always been a kick up kind of guy. Thanks for your note . Lou Remmers ________________________________ From: W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 8:14:52 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M 17 1977 model. Louis: the deck/transom joint can be a problem on the early M17s (meaning those with a transom cutout for the outboard). i'm making a guess ... at some point prior to your purchase did someone put a motor mount on the transom just below the outboard cutout? jerry can make you new shrouds, fore- & back-stays- www.jerrymontgomery.org good to read of another m-boat receiving some TLC. - Dave Scobie - M17 #375 - SWEET PEA :: www.m17-375.webs.com - Sage Marine :: www.sagemarine.us --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Louis Remmers <louremmers@yahoo.com> wrote: I purchased a 1977 M 17 last January and have had fun rehabing it. I fell in love with the monty back when they frist came on the market. The boat I have needed a new transom , so I cut the " cap " off and dug out the rotted plywood. made a template with cardboard then to luan and finally marine ply with excellent results. I replaced the aluminum drain in the underside of the stern and have all of the deck hardware off and am ready for the finish coat of paint when the weather cooperates. I hope to go to cedar key the first weekend in May if I finish in time. I have had fun so far and need to work on my standing rigging next. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!