Hi Tom, My Dilly trailer has a tilting pivot point located about under the bow. I've never used it, and don't know how one would apply enough upward force at the pivot to do any good. Maybe if the ramp was really steep, with a sharp drop off. . . Bill Riker M15 - #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jenkins Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:57 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: launching M17 Hello all, To my dismay, I can't sail my M17 where I live because subpar snowfall last winter has lowered water level close to the bottom of all decent launching ramps. The concave bunks on newer Pacific trailers evidently prevent the boat from floating off unless the water is 5' deep or more at the stern, even with a trailer extension. No problem on a good 14% or 15% standard ramp, but it would be nice to drop into some less developed spots where the boat will float but the trailer will not comply. It is nicer still to be able to pull one's boat out in the fall if the water drops during the summer (particularly if the lake freezes and there is 10' of snow). My question: has anyone experimented with launching and retrieving in substandard locations, either by fiddling with the trailer (reversing a drop hitch, blocking the wheels and jacking the tongue, etc.) or even modifying the trailer? Probably a trailer like my NS27 EZloader unit with four sets of tilting rollers could be devised, but it would be pricey. (We all like to spend money on our boats, right?) Thanks, Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats