Do you have an idea of how much you had to pull down the Sage plate on each side? I received the flat Sage plate yesterday, and set it on my bow. With the plate level and sitting on the fiberglass, it would have to be pulled down approximately 5/8" on each side (at the rear end of plate, less at front edge). That seems like a lot for that stiff plate, and I'd be concerned about the fiberglass when trying to put that kind of stress on it. Perhaps my 1974 M17 has a substantially different bow/deck shape? On Saturday, May 4, 2019, 9:12:42 AM EDT, Les Schuldt <les.schuldt@gmail.com> wrote: I am now the owner of the 2010 M17 “Grace” (now “Poppy”) in the video. While de-rigging after the Lake Pleasant Messabout, Jerry commented that he’d done a number of repairs on this bow plate and strongly recommended I order a replacement from Sage. ($100 + shipping) I ordered the replacement item. Triangular in shape, this stainless plate has four bolts on each side that through-bolt the much-thicker hull/deck joint. This plate is flat, so after applying bedding, the bolts must be gradually tightened to pull it to the slight curvature of the deck. Works great. Looks great. I left the old plate in place for attaching a jackline, etc. Note... It will add approx 1” to the needed length of your forestay, so you’ll either need to add an extension toggle or have a new forestay built. Les