Rich: the plastic ones strip out easily. use the aluminum CL211Racing Junior Mk1. this is the one i use(d) on my M15, M17 and on the Sage 17s to control the outhaul. works fine with a 3/16" or 1/4" line (also used for the reefing lines). :: Dave Scobie ________________________________ From: Rich Makela <richmak@makelaperformance.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:04 PM I purchased a loose-footed main for my M-17 in late 2010. I also reconfigured the outhaul to enable easy adjustment while under way, especially upwind. I use a plastic clam cleat mounted on the boom to secure the outhaul. The clam cleat doesn't always hold, and I'm looking for a better solution. Has anybody used a cam cleat with a fairlead on an M-17 outhaul? Given the curvature of the boom, how can it be mounted on the boom? Rich Makela M-17 #233 - Harmony