Also, you pays your money and takes your choice, but you pays a lot more money with a diesel. I think Thomas Jefferson said that
Jerry, I thought that well-known quote was from Ben Franklin, just before his lightning experiments. But I could be wrong. Tod
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of jerry Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:42 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M23 inboards
Several reasons- first, the 23 was not designed to carry all that weight back there, which is complicated even more when you put the water tank, the fuel tank, and the batteries under the cockpit. Someone who sailed in a group with Fred and Lilly told me that their boat sits 6" lower in the stern. I can believe it.
Second, the prop and shaft are lots of drag on a boat that small, especially when there is not a folding prop. That, together with the squatting, has to make a HUGE difference sailing on the wind.
The positives are generating power (of value if you have lots of electrical things), but I'm not really up on outboards and possibly now they have better generating systems. In either case you have to run the damn things in order to generate anything. I've been on camping trips where there was a little lightweight Honda generator, and they are amazingly quiet and would fit under the fwd berth even on a 15! Convenience is also an attribute; just throw a switch and push a button. If you've done your homework there are no fuel problems while on a cruise.
Also, you pays your money and takes your choice, but you pays a lot more money with a diesel. I think Thomas Jefferson said that.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <SALGLESSER@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:36 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M23 inboards
Thanx Dave.
Thanx Jerry, why Mo' betta?
sal
In a message dated 7/13/2009 10:15:21 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, jerry@jerrymontgomery.org writes:
That is correct- the 23 was designed for an outboard, and all the ones I made had an outboard bracket. More better, I think.
jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Scobie" <wdscobie@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M23 inboards
my understanding has been only the new cutter M23s have the inboard. the 'old', or classic, M23s were all fitted to use outboards.
dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site: http://www.m17-375.webs.com
--- On Sun, 7/12/09, SALGLESSER@aol.com <SALGLESSER@aol.com> wrote:
I noticed that "Dauntless" has an outboard. I believe she is a 1979 model. We have a M23 being built and ours has an inboard. Does Dauntless have an inboard as well?
sal
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