Those are like mine and I don't like them. Looking for good substitute but not those shiny chrome things. Sent from BlueMail On Jul 11, 2018, 2:40 PM, at 2:40 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
Attached are photos of the cleats in my '83 M17. One phort shows cleat used on bow and stern and the second are on theadt for the harlyards (the mast cleats are jam type). These Jerry's design.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 1:22 PM John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
FWIW the presumably OEM cleats on my '74 M17 are just about too small for the 3/8" diameter of pre-made dock lines.
To get the loop through the center is a bit of effort to start with, and then after looping over the cleat there's scarce room left for a second line to fit well (like a spring line, etc., or even a bungee cord hook).
I thought about changing cleats, but they're otherwise very nice aluminum cleats and I also want to minimize holes to fill.
So for now I'm "fixing" the problem by making myself some dock lines from 5/16" three-strand (because I can easily splice the loops myself compared to double-braid).
Maybe Jerry can explain the how-to for those custom cleats? Makes me curious...
cheers, John
On 07/11/2018 01:04 PM, Dave Scobie wrote:
Doug.
How big are the lines?
That cleat is custom, meaning Jerry designed it.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 12:53 PM doug <doug9326@gmail.com> wrote:
I just bought a 1980 M-15 in excellent condition. But the stern cleats (2) are worthless. The design of them makes it impossible to loop a dock line around one. One side of the two ears is much too short and the dock line just slips off and is unable to grab hold of that ear or wing or whatever one calls it. I am hoping that someone other than me has had this problem and fixed it with new stern deck cleats. The problem is that I do not want to drill new holes and have had no luck finding any cleats with holes spaced at the center lines at 1 5/8” apart. That is the space between the two holes is 1 5/8” from center to center. Please let me know if you have found a cleat that fits those dimensions and works as a cleat should. Thanks very much.
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