What's your hull #, Gilbert? --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: Gilbert Landin To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: M17 Transom Shape Sagita is a 1974 Model possibly the oldest on this list. She has the transom cutout and I have a Suzuki 4hp 4-stroke mounted there. I was out this weekend in Corpus Christi bay in Texas, winds were 20-25 knots and the chop was about 2-3 ft I was flying a storm jib and a full main. Later I reefed the main mostly since this was the first real sail of the season I still needed to tune my rigging. I have never had any problems with water over the stern. I imaging conditions would have to be pretty bad to get water over the stern. This boat still amazes me with the its abilities, I must admit I was having second thoughts of being out on a 20-25 knot day, but once I got in tune it was quite fun. The only thin about mounting the motor on the transom, is it gets in the way of the adjustable backstay. But I would rather deal with that than bothering with an external mount. Gilbert Sagita 1974 M-17 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Glen Pollard Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 1:16 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M17 Transom Shape Hello, I have just joined this discussion group and this is my first post. I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and sail on Lake Winnipeg which is the worlds 10th largest freshwater lake and is 264 miles long and 20-30 miles wide. My current boat, a 12Ft Tumbleweed, keeps me pretty close to home port so I am loking for a larger boat to extend my horizons. After much research I have concluded that an M17 fits my requirements. I have found several for sale in Minnesota and Wisconsen that are from the late 70s. I have noticed that some of the boats have the outboard mounted directly on the transom and others require a motor mount. Does anyone know if the transom mount with its cutout was specific to a particular year of manufacture. Also has anyone had experience with this model. I was wondering how succeptable this style is to taking on water over the stern. Thanks for your replies.