Hi Robbin- I don't understand your comment about the main hooking to weather in a line at the fron of the battens. Could you elaborate on thaat? Usually a haard line along the front of the battens comes from the battens being too stiff, or a poorly cut/worn out main, and usually it's the ends of the battens, at the leach, that hook to weather. I foot of rake on the mast doesn't seems too excessive to me, but the definative thing is that the weather helm should be just right. Jerry jerrymontgomery.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "robbin roddewig" <robbin.roddewig@verizon.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 6:31 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Level Reference
Thanks Jerry, made the trip to the marina yesterday and with the longer forestay you produced the mast was raked about 12" back! Much different position than previously where is was straight up if not a bit raked forward. To get the cockpit benches level I had to remove the 7.5hp outboard (glad that thing stays in place all year) and stood forward in the cockpit. The backstay is being shortened at Annapolis rigging so the rig should be in a much better state for the next sail. I have a new main but it was hooking to windward fairly severely along a line at the front of the battens. My sailing book said this would happen if the mast if too far forward so I am hoping this solves the issue with the main. Anyone have any experience with this they could offer?
Thanks Robbin
jerry wrote:
Robbin- the boat will float bow down with nobody in the cockpit. Theoretically the seats should be level with a couple of people fwd in the cockpit.
Jerry jerrymontgomery.org
----- Original Message ----- From: "robbin roddewig" <robbin.roddewig@verizon.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:34 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Level Reference
Tim, I also have new standing rigging which is not right and have to have a new backstay made (old rigging was lost when the new stuff was made), so I need to measure with the mast raked correctly. I am going to use the halyard with the boat floating and me not on it to get the correct mast position. I cannot think of another way to do it. I will try and see if the benches or cockpit floor register level with the boat floating. Then if they are they could be used as a reference on the trailer.
Robbin
Tim Diebert wrote:
Right....sorry......I actually was wondering if the cockpit sole...the
berth
decks ....the cockpit benches....or whatever is a level reference. That way I can easily level the boat fore and aft on the trailer and try
and
have a reference starting point for mast rake. Rather than using a
painted
on water line that has been tweaked by PO's. I have new standing rig on the boat and am playing with rake. I reckon I have it too far right now but would like to try the recommended point.
If
the boat is not level....using the halyard method isn't going to work. Unless I am missing something.....then that would make an even dozen for today. Tim
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jenkins Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:38 AM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: Re: M_Boats: Level Reference
Tim, I don't know what has been said by others, but you might borrow one of
those
inexpensive infrared thermometers and find where the temp changes on the hull. I do it to find the level of heating oil in my tank, but have not tried it myself on less conductive fiberglass.
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tim Diebert Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:29 AM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: Level Reference
I know it was asked but did not see a reply. Is there an area of the 17 hull that is a known level reference relative
to
water line?
I don't always read all the emails......so if anyone got this one some
help
would be grand.
Tim and PUFF
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