A BIG drawback to that is the following: I cannot lift the tongue of my M15 either, BUT when the trailer is not hooked to the car, and I climb in the back of the boat I don't have to worry about the front going up in the air like a see-saw. And I weigh 220#s. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jenkins Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:20 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Weight of boat and Pacific trailer I think Gary Hyde moved the axle forward on his M17 Pacific trailer because he had a tongue weight contraint on his tow vehicle. On my trailer, the spring hangers are welded to the frame, so I would have it done professionally by someone who knows how critical the axle alignment is. Too bad you can't just loosen some bolts and adjust. On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
This whole thing came about because of high tongue weight. There is no way I can lift the tongue on this trailer. So, hopefully this weekend I will weigh the thing again with a different scale.
Daniel On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:26 AM, W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> wrote:
Daniel:
Glessers' also have an extension.
a 'perspective' based in pushing and lifting the trailer tongue of the Glessers' trailer, without boat and with boat, and the other trailers and boat/trailers -
the trailer is lighter than 500# (one of the trailers i have that i have weighed on a scale) and lighter that an known 1800# boat/trailer combination (again weighed on a scale). so much lighter actually that the M15/trailer combo is 'next to nothing' to move from one end of the shop or parking lot to the other.
maybe your M15 has gold bars as ballast ;-)
:: Dave Scobie :: expert as pushing boats and trailers around parking lots ;-)
--- On Fri, 9/28/12, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting. That is the trailer I have, the G14-1000. I do not have a spare on it. Mine has the trailer extension, which has to add like 100 pounds, since that piece of steel is a whopper.
Daniel On 9/28/2012 9:40 AM, W David Scobie wrote:
the declared weight on the certificate of origin is based on the standard framing, axle, tires, lights, bunks and mast crutch. everything else, like a spare tire, is 'option' and not included.
the Glessers' new Pacific trailer for their M15 has a 'declared weight' of 350#. this is the G14-1000 frame.
in my work with Pacific in designing trailers they admitted to using a 'formula' to generate the trailer's weight based on stock numbers ... not actually weighing the trailer.
i haven't weighed the Glessers' trailer so i can't say what it comes in at.