AS long as we coming clean on demastings I have had a few (4)
1. Seward 25 under sail Greenbay WI found out that a cotter key some how worked its way out at forestay. Abe to recover mast have pictures on this one. 2. WWP15 raised mast in parking lot of Lake getting to ramp hit overhanging branches. No major damage to boat Ego deflated as this was my first launch at this sailing club and entire event was observed by Club members from Club House. 3.M 15 !st launch on present Lake left boat in slip returned next day to find Mast down. Discovered that turnbuckles had worked loose. I had not but in cotter keys as I was coming back th next morning. This is a weekend water skiing lake and the wave action was enough to do it's dirty work. 4. M 15 launch following year raised mast and it started raining wanted to get out of way of other boats (Fishing) ready to launch. drove up entrance to ramp and mast hit overhead electrical line. Mast came down broken turnbuckle. Very fortunate as there was a fatality of a sailor launching a Hobie and hitting the same overhead wire a number of years back All in all not to bad George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602
George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails" On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
There but for the grace of God go I.... I once rigged my Snipe and had to drive around and into the parking lot to launch. I missed the turn and continued to see if there was another entrance. I was so busy navigating that I didn't notice the overhanging trees.. whacked a couple with no damage. .phewwwww!
Jazz On Nov 11, 2016 9:14 AM, "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek@gmail.com> wrote:
Connie, that is one of the most painful boat stories I've read in some time. Thanks for sharing. - Brad
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 13:47:15 -0600 From: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: My latest disaster Message-ID: <7a131ad8-5493-32ae-e254-1b81685dc61a@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
On 11/6/2016 12:03 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
Tom,
Add to that having a friend help you get the M15 out of the water by driving your car, with the mast up. I expected him to pull us out of the water and stop the car so that I could lower the mast. Instead, he decided to keep driving to his boat yard, about 150 feet away, and next door to the park where the launch ramp was located.
Only, he forgot that there was a huge old oak tree with a very large limb crossing the road that was about 15 feet above the road.
As he started heading down the road, I was frantically yelling for him to stop, but he didn't hear me with the windows closed. Then came the oak limb...... The forestay hit it pulling the mast forward; then the oak limb hit the mast. The mast buckled. That caused he driver of my car to finally stop, as the car stopped.
He got out.... Said, sorry; .... and helped me lower the bent mast to the deck.
I had to get a new mast and then put all the bits and pieces back in place to make a working mast again.
The moral of the story: if you are asking someone to help drive the car to get your boat out of the water, make very certain that you explain to him exactly where he has to go; /_*and where he has to park the car and the boat as you leave the launch ramp*_/; otherwise it can get expensive, and involve a lot of totally unnecessary repair work.
Connie
Yes, I graduated to the big stuff years ago. Dismasting, rudder ripped out of the transom, falling overboard (as I dismasted the boat), almost getting shot on a Fort Lauderdale boat ramp because I could not get my sailboat centered on the trailer, sailing into a palmtree and almost dismasting again. Going to the expense of replacing a wire/rope halyard on my first Montgomery and then cutting them both down to 20 feet since that is how tall the mast was, making a boat trailer in my welding shop that was too wide for the axle I had bought but used it anyway only to have the trailer frame wear a hole in the side of a trailer tire on the New Jersey TPKE. Ah yes, and I still like sailing.
On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 10:24 PM, GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
'Badges of Honor - aka Learning Curve.
In a message dated 11/5/2016 7:28:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, drifkind@acm.org writes:
On Nov 5, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com
wrote:
Sorry about the trouble, Stan. The way your halyard jammed is one for the books. But then, things happen in bunches on boats. Ripped out rudders, dismasting it is all part of the "game?. A lot of the stories I read?groundings. dismastings, scuttlings, whatever? are pretty intimidating. I figure I can start with _little_ disasters and work my way up to big ones.
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Message: 2 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 15:56:35 -0600 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: My latest disaster Message-ID: <CA+TbpAWKdqAQDk=S0PnFWqmb0S1uOC+vPJ9yffOe2_JMhWhb3g@mail. gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
If he was over sixty asking him to stop once he got to the top of the ramp still might not have done any good.?
On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/6/2016 12:03 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
Tom,
Add to that having a friend help you get the M15 out of the water by driving your car, with the mast up. I expected him to pull us out of the water and stop the car so that I could lower the mast. Instead, he decided to keep driving to his boat yard, about 150 feet away, and next door to the park where the launch ramp was located.
Only, he forgot that there was a huge old oak tree with a very large limb crossing the road that was about 15 feet above the road.
As he started heading down the road, I was frantically yelling for him to stop, but he didn't hear me with the windows closed. Then came the oak limb...... The forestay hit it pulling the mast forward; then the oak limb hit the mast. The mast buckled. That caused he driver of my car to finally stop, as the car stopped.
He got out.... Said, sorry; .... and helped me lower the bent mast to the deck.
I had to get a new mast and then put all the bits and pieces back in place to make a working mast again.
The moral of the story: if you are asking someone to help drive the car to get your boat out of the water, make very certain that you explain to him exactly where he has to go; /_*and where he has to park the car and the boat as you leave the launch ramp*_/; otherwise it can get expensive, and involve a lot of totally unnecessary repair work.
Connie
Yes, I graduated to the big stuff years ago. Dismasting, rudder ripped out
of the transom, falling overboard (as I dismasted the boat), almost getting shot on a Fort Lauderdale boat ramp because I could not get my sailboat centered on the trailer, sailing into a palmtree and almost dismasting again. Going to the expense of replacing a wire/rope halyard on my first Montgomery and then cutting them both down to 20 feet since that is how tall the mast was, making a boat trailer in my welding shop that was too wide for the axle I had bought but used it anyway only to have the trailer frame wear a hole in the side of a trailer tire on the New Jersey TPKE. Ah yes, and I still like sailing.
On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 10:24 PM, GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
'Badges of Honor - aka Learning Curve.
In a message dated 11/5/2016 7:28:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard
Time,
drifkind@acm.org writes:
On Nov 5, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Sorry about the trouble, Stan. The way your halyard jammed is one for > the
> books. But then, things happen in bunches on boats. Ripped out > rudders, > dismasting it is all part of the "game?. > A lot of the stories I read?groundings. dismastings, scuttlings, whatever? are pretty intimidating. I figure I can start with _little_ disasters and work my way up to big ones.
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Message: 3 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 16:07:12 -0600 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Montgomery Photo Site Message-ID: <CA+TbpAWSesBo_SNQLP0XA3Ai=rz_tfNXYJpTnSMtBAnaE9tpgQ@mail. gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Does anybody know how to log in or how to register in the first place to access this new site for Monty owners with pictures and how-to articles to contribute? I tried using my Sage/Montgomery Forums password and user name but no go with that.
Fair winds, Tom B
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Message: 4 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:11:05 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Photo Site Message-ID: <CAGjBOA65=Dh=QFmxgaqNCGd+fZv7NhqPRv-BYCwGnQ7+63kicw@ mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
You can't register to the photosite (yet).
An account will be made for you.
Give me a few days to out things together.
Thanks for the interest Tom.
:: Dave Scobie
On Nov 6, 2016 3:07 PM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anybody know how to log in or how to register in the first place to access this new site for Monty owners with pictures and how-to articles to contribute? I tried using my Sage/Montgomery Forums password and user name but no go with that.
Fair winds, Tom B
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Message: 5 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 18:35:56 -0600 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery Photo Site Message-ID: <CA+TbpAW2gVOqVe-beh9OU+gxgH38QJ=xh=_GnVGYhHfqMhpkvg@ mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
You are always a great help, Dave. Thanks! Tom B
On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
You can't register to the photosite (yet).
An account will be made for you.
Give me a few days to out things together.
Thanks for the interest Tom.
:: Dave Scobie
On Nov 6, 2016 3:07 PM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anybody know how to log in or how to register in the first place to access this new site for Monty owners with pictures and how-to articles to contribute? I tried using my Sage/Montgomery Forums password and user name but no go with that.
Fair winds, Tom B
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Sailors - I am looking for all the guidance I can get, and pictures would be soooo helpful. I was lucky enough to get my hands on an M23 last season, and I restored it over the winter with my dad which was a lot of work, but in the end, she is a beautiful boat and so much fun to sail.
It has been very warm in MN and I am thinking about throwing it in the sling for a day or two at the yard she is located at. This would be on thurs or Friday of this week. Spring time will be very busy and harder to do this at the yard, so I am thinking that now is the time.
Wondering if anyone can help with pics and instructions on the keel. She has not been lowered in three years and will not go down. I want to change out and fix whatever is needed and will only have a day or two in the sling. I am mechanical but know nothing about this project.
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