I have not tried the maneuver on my M17, but my Nor'Sea 27 will not heave-to with the jib up in stiff winds, although it does so nicely with no headsail. Evidently the hull alone has enough windage to counter the main, and a backwinded headsail gives too much push forward. Apparently this is not a Lyle Hess issue if the Montgomery boats function in the standard way. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of bownez@juno.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:58 AM To: doug_kelch@yahoo.com; montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com; montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Heave-to matey HI Listers, I sincerely agree with Connie, every sailor should have the skill to heave-to in the boat they are sailing. I find it surprising that when I'm out with other sailors on their craft, many do not have that knowledge and have never even tried the procedure. On my M17 and M23, I find that both will heave-to rather easily, however, I have never been able to create the protective "slick" area that the Pardey's and other big water sailors speak of. The boats seem to still want to make a bit of forward progress, less than a knot. I have also heard some boats are very reluctant to heave-to, aka the PSC Dana. Later, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find experienced pros to help with your home improvement project. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2eRJBqK7QG9auGaV2Y0nDRdwF7 8Npc5qbGPS7mihVOZHHgV/ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats