Ah yes, Tod, Ted Brewer, thanks! He followed a Victoria 18' feature article with the comparison of the Typh, M17 and 16cb. And I was confusing Brewer with Bolger, the small-boat and DIY'ers' god (I think most of Bolger's designs are eyesores, but if you're the "form follows function" type, you may find them beautiful) . . . I'm no designer, but some of Brewer's comparisons don't make sense to me, for instance, per M-List replies to Gilbert's question, it seems that comparing the CD Typhoon to the M17 is comparing apples and oranges. And I think Brewer even compared the NS27 to the Pacific Seacraft Flicka, which left me flummoxed, because the PS Dana 24' would've been much closer in size and displacement. --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: <htmills@bright.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:54 PM Subject: yes, you are not hallucinating! Craig, See GOB July/Aug 2003 pg 47 for Ted Brewer's comparison of the Victoria 18, Typhoon, M-17, and Compac 16CB. See GOB May/June 2003 pg 54 for an article on the M-23 and pg 57 for Ted Brewer's comparison of the M-23 to the Compac 23 and the O'Day 23. Hope this helps, Tod