Hey all., this is just the best forum. Special thank you to John, Keith, Henry, and Dave for answering my questions about anchoring setup(s). You all provided a nice welcome, great pictures and thoughts that will help me with setting up or being confident in anchoring this fine vessel. I have been actively reading the other posts over the last few months and realize that one of the best benefits of owning a Montgomery is this forum. So, thank you, all very much. To answer a few questions that were asked of me: 1) my M17 is located in West Palm Beach, Fl. I also live in a small coastal town in Oregon, and sail in Newport Bay and offshore with my 18’ Pacaroon (Sam Rabl design). Do have ideas/plans to someday to get the Montgomery to the PNW… 2) The M17 that I own has the aluminum toe rail, (for sure. I won’t cut it). I want to keep the boat as original as possible. Anyway, thanks again. I look forward to keeping up to date with the others that post on this forum. It’s a pleasure. Keith Korporaal s/v Ginger Snap From: montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 10:45 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 226, Issue 6 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anchoring setup on M17 (John Schinnerer) 2. Re: Anchoring setup on M17 (Henry Rodriguez) 3. Re: Anchoring setup on M17 (Keith R. Martin) 4. Re: Anchoring setup on M17 (Dave Scobie) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 10:54:03 -0800 From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Anchoring setup on M17 To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <2a6276ae-df6f-6fb7-3710-93fe21ee43fe@eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Congrats Keith and welcome to M17-land! My 1974 M17 has a large center-located bow cleat which is where I make fast the anchor rode. Being as old as it is, it also has the wonderful full length anodized aluminum toe rails which are very low-friction, so I have no separate chocks as the rode just slides over the toe rail. It is stopped from shifting much aft by the bow pulpit stanchion. Not sure when M17s changed from the aluminum to wood toe rails, which do you have? My anchor lives (so far anyhow) in the small starboard locker and not on the bow so no pulpit mount or bow roller etc. on mine. Keith M. has a whole customized bow roller/sprit setup, looks like Henry on "Monita" does also, you can see some of this on the MSOG photo site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmsogphotosite.com%2FScripts%2FGeneral%2Findex.php&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0dbd548964e44d2b426b08d9cd3dbd50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637766487342455793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=SiuxSUSD0ftxxmJZ8NW3IJCx5XXVH4N%2FoKl%2BnNu39hg%3D&reserved=0 Happy new years' eve, John On 12/31/21 10:38 AM, Cap Keith wrote:
Hi all,
I recently bought a 1980 Montgomery 17 and was trying to figure out the best way to setup the anchoring system. Not so much on types of anchors, but, more importantly how the bow is set to receive the anchor rode, there isn’t a Sampson post, or what I feel is proper or more functional chocks or bow roller (?). Can anyone provide what has worked best for them?
Thank you! Keith Korporaal
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Feco-living.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0dbd548964e44d2b426b08d9cd3dbd50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637766487342455793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Jr3AmkdJ2YGiw2P9QvuEXLd1K1VNDlA7xwWl3CoRDCM%3D&reserved=0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsociocracyconsulting.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0dbd548964e44d2b426b08d9cd3dbd50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637766487342455793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=xgzUu%2FT7ARmJYSMYfNwK5AagR1CuRUqxl9p%2BSElecQs%3D&reserved=0 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 14:30:08 -0600 From: Henry Rodriguez <heinzir@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Anchoring setup on M17 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAMKG1hLtBg=eMBGmkuJP2WEXak_AzZhrmJM3qtqi62waupQN3A@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Keith, Congratulations on your new boat. Where are you located? Here are some links to pics of my anchor rode set up and of the bowsprit I added for an anchor roller. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmsogphotosite.com%2FScripts%2FStoryTechnical%2Fstorytechnicaldetail.php%3Fid%3D161&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0dbd548964e44d2b426b08d9cd3dbd50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637766487342455793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=eCxyU1YaOo2tKkmkH3PsPwzNMDCgq8c05KZNJE1RQu4%3D&reserved=0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmsogphotosite.com%2FScripts%2FStoryTechnical%2Fstorytechnicaldetail.php%3Fid%3D134&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0dbd548964e44d2b426b08d9cd3dbd50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637766487342455793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=LuLc%2Fry9U1LjX%2FtdgySEJ9ML8HBs2iz%2Fypbg0c%2FNd1Y%3D&reserved=0 Unfortunately there is a glitch in the msogphotosite program that is not allowing the thumbnail pictures in the Bowsprit post to show full size when clicked on. These mods are probably overkill for a boat as small as the M17 but they do keep me nautically occupied during our long Minnesota winters. Henry M17 Monita #310 On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 12:38 PM Cap Keith <orionkeith@msn.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I recently bought a 1980 Montgomery 17 and was trying to figure out the best way to setup the anchoring system. Not so much on types of anchors, but, more importantly how the bow is set to receive the anchor rode, there isn’t a Sampson post, or what I feel is proper or more functional chocks or bow roller (?). Can anyone provide what has worked best for them?
Thank you! Keith Korporaal
-- Sent from Gmail Mobile ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 14:00:40 -0800 From: "Keith R. Martin" <keith.richard.martin@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Anchoring setup on M17 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAOQkDsyVT5Mvu-BUqDyvkFL-Y_vg6LDdvLdpRUG1HRsB3JNwVA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello Keith, welcome to our community! I have equipped my 1982 M17 with a bow roller mounted anchor in a fashion that might be of interest to you... You can find some info on it here -> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msogphotosite.com%2FScripts%2FStoryTechnical%2Fstorytechnicaldetail.php%3Fid%3D164&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0dbd548964e44d2b426b08d9cd3dbd50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637766487342455793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=X0%2FRkBGuUs9gz2QwNxcyXM1gcwgIrJmemHQbDAtn%2F5E%3D&reserved=0 Cheers Keith *Keith R. Martin* *Vancouver/Burnaby B.C.* *Serenity M17, #353* *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msogphotosite.com%2FScripts%2FBoats%2Fboatsdetail.php%3Fid%3D105&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0dbd548964e44d2b426b08d9cd3dbd50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637766487342455793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=hLO%2FOdpjq8DaMC1TcR8KMfI9fJzt2D9CxIlhiJ3cq5o%3D&reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msogphotosite.com%2FScripts%2FBoats%2Fboatsdetail.php%3Fid%3D105&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0dbd548964e44d2b426b08d9cd3dbd50%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637766487342455793%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=hLO%2FOdpjq8DaMC1TcR8KMfI9fJzt2D9CxIlhiJ3cq5o%3D&reserved=0>* On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 10:38, Cap Keith <orionkeith@msn.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I recently bought a 1980 Montgomery 17 and was trying to figure out the best way to setup the anchoring system. Not so much on types of anchors, but, more importantly how the bow is set to receive the anchor rode, there isn’t a Sampson post, or what I feel is proper or more functional chocks or bow roller (?). Can anyone provide what has worked best for them?
Thank you! Keith Korporaal
------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 07:44:49 -0800 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Anchoring setup on M17 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAGjBOA54oYXzp7U+qeDqDR__Jh1H+e2e8UGEcMqV8adGyad83Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" My thoughts: Launch and retrieve the anchor from the cockpit. When anchor set walk rode to the bow. Store in the deep Port cockpit locker. Tie rode to the big cleat in the center of the foredeck. I assume your boat has aluminum toe rails. Run the rode over the toe rail. Chocks would nice nice but difficult to fit as you _do not_ want to remove, cut or damage the aluminum toe rails. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com On Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 10:38 AM Cap Keith <orionkeith@msn.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I recently bought a 1980 Montgomery 17 and was trying to figure out the best way to setup the anchoring system. Not so much on types of anchors, but, more importantly how the bow is set to receive the anchor rode, there isn’t a Sampson post, or what I feel is proper or more functional chocks or bow roller (?). Can anyone provide what has worked best for them?
Thank you! Keith Korporaal
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