Wow, amazing Les! I'm glad to see you are on the list too. That's great info, I'll check with them. Thanks very much! On Saturday, May 4, 2019, 9:12:42 AM EDT, Les Schuldt <les.schuldt@gmail.com> wrote: I am now the owner of the 2010 M17 “Grace” (now “Poppy”) in the video. While de-rigging after the Lake Pleasant Messabout, Jerry commented that he’d done a number of repairs on this bow plate and strongly recommended I order a replacement from Sage. ($100 + shipping) I ordered the replacement item. Triangular in shape, this stainless plate has four bolts on each side that through-bolt the much-thicker hull/deck joint. This plate is flat, so after applying bedding, the bolts must be gradually tightened to pull it to the slight curvature of the deck. Works great. Looks great. I left the old plate in place for attaching a jackline, etc. Note... It will add approx 1” to the needed length of your forestay, so you’ll either need to add an extension toggle or have a new forestay built. Les
On May 4, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I'm having trouble finding a photo showing one like you describe. Most that come up in a google search do not show the bow in good enough detail. I did find this video though, at 6:04 it doesn't look too different from mine. ??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjlsULE-DCU&t=338s Can anyone provide a photo of the original? I asked Jerry a couple weeks ago about a possible replacement; he's going to look when at the shop.
On Saturday, May 4, 2019, 7:42:54 AM EDT, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
That is not the original bow plate. I don't have a photo right now, but the original is a handsome aluminum casting that wraps around the bow's tip and under the hull-deck joint. It provides much needed strength and protection in an area that is handling a good amount of tension from the forestay and is very exposed to collision damage. Hard to imagine the thought process that led to its removal from your boat. In my opinion, if you stay with what you have, you definitely need to reinforce the deck underneath.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 3:51 AM To: Msog <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: M17 rigging continued
Ok, last night I was able to compare the masts side by side and take measurements. I will be able to use a tabernacle with no problem. I'll return the hinged base. Oh while I'm on rigging, can someone confirm if this is an original bow plate from the mid 70's? Someone expressed concern that it wasn't, or was not in the right spot, or might pull the bolts through the deck. There isn't a backing plate, the bolts just go through the deck. I see no signs of modification in this area though.