Tom, Rick and Mark, Thank you much for your replies. I will be going the heat gun/scraper route, and yes, be careful because wood DOES scorch easily! The M23 rudder is in the sun all summer. I have been doing the bottom paint on the portion that sits in the water with the rudder raised. I normally use varnish on brightwork that can be removed from the boat (dropboards, rudder, tiller, etc.) But the attached teak (grabrails, trim) get Penofin oil. I used Cetol years ago as an experiment on my M6.8. I did not like the muddy, dull look. However, some boating friends are using Cetol's updated product on their Island Packets and it does look much better. I think it is a "Light" formulation? It may be time to try it again, it does seem to hold up better than varnish. Later, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Odd Carb-Hormone Trick 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar & decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52877b641917a7b633bdest03vuc