Hi Todd, what I did was to take the deck to hull joint apart just a bit and in the process remove and rebed that toe rail. My issue was leaking in the area that the water pools on the deck. It was a fairly big job for me and my son. I definitely did change out the SS screws. Jerry M had a great suggestion to replace the phillips head screws with square drive. As I found out, the phillips head have issue stripping. My suggestion on removing the screws is to use an impact driver. As far as the 5200 I think that it is fine for the hull to deck joint but for the toe rail bedding you could go with a less tenacious adhesive if you want. I did get some varying opinions about using the 5200. I also glassed the joint with tape and epoxy so I was going for a permanent hull to deck seal. I am not thinking polybutyl would be good for this application. I have some for bedding deck hardware but I would use an adhesive on the toe rail. Depending on your ambition you might try simply rebedding the rail and not messing with the hull to deck joint. But definitely do yourself a favor and get the square drive screws. I found those at West Marine after looking for them at many other fastener companies. Good luck with the projects and please let me know if you have any questions. Robbin M-23 #072 Deale MD On 1/23/2014 11:13 PM, Todd Bradley wrote:
Hi Robbin - thanks for the input. I think the 150 might be the way to go.
I will need to check out your photos again on rebidding your toe-rail. I also have leaks there. Just need to see if that makes it into this seasons projects. Did you change out the original ss screws? I know that you used the 3M 5200 as the sealer. I am a bit apprehensive of using 5200, as I understand that the stuff has so much adhesion it never comes off. Which can be a good thing. But just what if, in a few years I need to get it back off.....you never know. Do you think there is any wisdom in bedding the toe rail with butyl tape or a lower psi adhesive.
Thanks again!
Todd Bradley
M-23 #86
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robbin Roddewig Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:47 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sails
Hi Todd, I had a hank on 150 on my 23 that worked great on the Chesapeake bay for most of the conditions there. I moved to a roller furler this last season and really like it. The roller has I think a 135. All the best with your deferred maintenance. I know how that is...I also had the hatch rails redone last winter, sealed the port hull to deck seam and this winter am still working on replacing a bunch of the ash slats that had rotted and am having the deck under the mast looked to. Its always something but the 23 is a lot of fun to sail.
Robbin
On 1/23/2014 5:59 PM, Todd Bradley wrote:
Hi Everybody,
I am hoping to get some feedback regarding headsail size for my 23'. I do not currently have a headsail and am trying to determine the best size to start with as I eventually build a sail inventory. I will be doing most of my sailing on my local lake (Folsom). Where winds vary from 0 to 8 knots and then days with 8 to 15 knot winds. I will eventual get it up to Tahoe and down into SF bay where the winds will be stronger. I have spoken to a few other sailing folks and I am thinking of Starting with a 135 Genoa.
What are others using? Do you think a 135 is a good place to start?
Thanks in advance for any of your input!
Todd Bradley
M-23 #86