John: There are no rules protecting an old boat like a M6'8" from being made by anyone. Same goes for the M15, M23 and anything built/designed before 2010-ish. The only thing that is possible to stop someone legally is using the name 'Montgomery'. IMO the molds were likely stolen by tweekers for the metal frames. The response Bob received to his inquiry was BS and obviously a brush-off by the Australian company (aka Alan). :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, 12:52 PM John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hmmm...fascinating.
Well, if someone stole the mold from you...not an easy thing to fence, right? Strange thing to steal, really.
But if someone's gonna steal a boat mold...then what?
If they have it in their possession, that would likely be enough to convince someone - especially half way around the planet - that they also have the ability to grant them a license to use it.
At some point, it would seem that an actual M6-8 or plug or mold had to make its way down under to get this all started...
cheers, John
On 8/16/22 19:59, Bob Eeg wrote:
Funny stuff concerning the 6-8 I inquired the cost and hey, where did you get the molds ?
He just replied back….:
“ Hi Bob,
I think shipping the M6-8 to California would not be cost effective.
We built the moulds here under licence.
Regards, Alan
Alan & Cindy Nebauer Global Projects Yachting 0402 443478. “
Well for sure he’s lying right off the bat….lol Bob Eeg
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On Aug 15, 2022, at 9:53 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Skip Actually the molds for the 6-8 and 7-11 (and a 10/12 hull and plug) went missing out of my factory side yard in July 2019 when I was in the hospital at Hoag most of the time. They disappeared and I don’t know where they went. Bob Eeg (949)307-5699
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On Aug 15, 2022, at 5:59 PM, WILLIAM CAMPION via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
John,
During my search for an M-6.8, I discovered the mold was sold by Bob and sent to Australia. I’ve been on the hunt for at least 6 years now, so I’d have to say it’s been about 4 years now since Bob sold the molds. I did reach out to the new builder and getting a new M-6.8 would only be feasible if me and 12 of my closest friends decided to buy a fleet. Hence, my continued search. I was disappointed to learn the mold left the US, ending any possibilities of a new builder resurrecting the M-dinks.
Skip Campion
On Aug 15, 2022, at 8:31 PM, John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Just stumbled over this:
https://dinghies-daysailers.com/index.html#dinghies
It would seem to appear that the M6-8 is in production in Australia, in the vicinity of Jervis bay, south of Sydney?!? But...the site has no other pages, and may by older than it looks, or...? Anyone shed any light?
It's about the only relevant search result I can find, besides the excellent write-up on Dave Scobie's S/V Swallow site: https://sv-swallow.com/the-dinghy/
...which corrects the attribution on the Aussie site about the design being Lyle Hess'.
cheers, John
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