Been there, done that, Tom! Luckily I only bent a gudgeon, no damage to the transom. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Thursday, September 24, 2015, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Nice report, John. I have a used IDA kickup rudder on mine and cannot lower it completely with the boat on the trailer even though the cb housing sits at least a foot above the driveway. Am considering cutting the bottom of it off so I can at least haul the boat out of the water without dragging the end of the rudder on the launch ramp if I forget to raise the rudder before hauling it out. Holy cow if I forget about that rudder and try to back the boat anywhere, could be curtains for a rudder gudgeon or two. Glad to hear you are enjoying the craft already. fair winds, Tom B
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 1:35 AM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net <javascript:;>> wrote:
Took my inaugural sail on Pajarita, my recently purchased '74 M17, today. My sailing pal Keith (Ranger 20 "Stoke" - yep, he's also a surfer) was along to help rig and test her out. What a sweet boat! Was at Lake of the Woods, in the highlands/mountains a bit east of Medford/Ashland area in southern Oregon. A mild and sunny late summer day with light to medium winds and an occasional fresh breeze, the latter pushing us up to near hull speed with the small jib and full main.
Some interesting discoveries and other comments:
Boat came with extra mainsheet type line and block rig for solo mast raising, and with mainsail and sheet/blocks already on boom with sail cover on. So I rigged it up as it was. Then I was wondering why in only a moderate breeze the main sheet took so much muscle to sheet in, didn't seem right compared to any other boat I've sailed. Took a closer look and noticed the block setup was only 3 turns. Took a second look at the alleged mast raising block/line and it is 4 turns, and less bulky to boot. I can only assume the former owner was sailing with the mast raising tackle, and had the mainsheet tackle in the mast raising gear bucket...!
The main and jib halyards are nice color coded line - green halyard for main/stbd, red for jib/port - but they're in the opposite sheaves they should be at masthead! Not tangled...just need to be pulled and swapped port/stbd (they are even color coded, ). Worked around it by just cleating the halyards on the "wrong" sides for now.
The boat sat with the CB line apparently wrapped quite tight around the CB winch for quite a while (boat was stored for ~1.5 years before I bought it). The line against the winch appears to have gotten compacted and smoothed and slips quite a bit while trying to raise the CB, even with 4 turns on the winch. This is exacerbated by use of a poorly placed and nearly too small jam cleat with too tight of fairlead to secure the CB line, and a rather flimsy plastic winch handle that is also too long to turn 360 deg. without hitting CB trunk, and a CB winch that doesn't seem to have the function of letting the handle ratchet back and forth as it turns the winch.
The flex in the transom at the (nice stainless, adjustable, spring-loaded) motor mount with the Tohatsu 6hp SailPro is not IMO sustainable. Just sitting still with the motor raised, even, if the boat bounces in a little chop. Flex, flex, flex.... Not to mention actually motoring! There is a backing plate inside the hull, but a poorly done one. The flex/stress on the transom due to motor weight is more a concern for me than trim issues due to the weight.
Also, at something less than half throttle I think we were pretty much at hull speed (with CB down no less). Cranking up the throttle led to stern settling and even more flex/stress on the mount/transom. So that motor seems like significant overkill for an M17. I could mount it direct in cutout but then there's the rudder/motor/prop interference issue. Just read a rave review of the motor as being more than adequate for a 3000 lb. boat sailing in the San Juans' current-laden waters.
The boat came with the mahogany one piece rudder, the original I assume. What a long blade! I couldn't even put the rudder on at the dock, too shallow, even though plenty of depth for the keel with CB up. Anyone know what the draft is on the one-piece rudder? Anyhow I need to do something about that long fixed rudder, and whatever I do has to cost way less than the $600+ Ruddercraft and the like. Anyone have plans/diagrams/photos for a DIY kick-up conversion?
All for now. Love the boat so far! She's in a short-term slip at the small marina and will see some more sailing Saturday, maybe Friday also, maybe even Sunday.
cheers, John S.
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