Sent from my iPad > On Mar 11, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Steve Trapp wrote: > > The M-15 that completed the R2AK used oars, saw the boat in Port Townsend before the race and admired the set up. There is a photo in SCA, but I do not remember the edition # or publication date, but with the past couple of years. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- From: brad kurlancheek > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:48 AM > To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Oars for M15 > > Blair. Thanks for the links. > Can't tell you how many times I'd read the info > contained therein, before proceeding with the setup > I have now. I believe I'd scoured the internet for months, > looking for, and reading about, how and where to put oarlock > sockets onto fibreglass boats, from 14' to 22'. Often I'd scrapped > the whole oar idea and was going to resort to sculling as a better > alternativel > Which it might very well be, except there's the issue of where to put the > scull. > What was particularly motivating were the many passages > in Michael Mann's book, A Little Breeze to the West, where > he is caught in the middle of the Pacific, on his way to Hawaii, > driftless, windless, and motionless, wishing, praying, and hoping, > he had a pair of working oars with satisfactory oar sockets to put them in, > so as to be able to make some/any progress, when in dead calm flat seas. > I thought, for months and months, on how exactly to get this done, > before drilling and cutting into the pristine fibreglass. > Finally I decided to do what seemed to me > the easiest way to get it done, with what I had on hand. > I cut out two 3/8" x 3" x 2" plywood plates, then sanded them, epoxied > them, and varnished them. On the outside of each plate would > be attached thereto a bronze oar sidesocket . Holes were then drilled > through > the four holes of the sidesocket, through the wooden plate, into the > exterior gunwale/coaming of the M15, > from the outside of the gunwale/coaming, > to where the extra long drill bit drilled through the corresponding side, > into the cockpit. Yes, this was indeed the point of no return. > In total, 4 holes were drilled into the interior/cockpit plywood plate, so > as to > receive the end of four 5" stainless steel screws, where a tightening bolt > would be screwed on. The bolts were cut, so that as little as possible > protrudes > into the cockpit. Tape was then placed over the protruding ends, as an end > bolt > stuck into one's arm or side while sailing could really ruin one's day. > This was done on each side - so what you get is a pair of oar sidesockets, > placed on the outside of the M15 coaming, fastened plush thereto, anchored > by a receiving plate and 4 bolts, on the interior side of the gunwale. > As to the oars themselves, I bit the bullet and bought a pair of 10' > composite > oars from NRS. Each oar breaks down quickly into 2 pieces. To store the > oars, > I put each pair of each oar, into the area that's underneath the cockpit > seats, the opening of which is accessible from within the cabin, facing the > stern, one opening > on each side of the inside face of the companionway. The end of each > piece, which protrudes a few inches into the cabin, rests on some padding, > so as not to chew up the interior finish, and to keep them from making > noise. The oars are lightweight and snap together in less than a minute, > tho they ain't cheap! > > My original set of bronze circular oarlocks, I found to my chagrin, are not > going to cut it. Because of the angle of the exterior vertical plane of > the M15 coaming, the paddle part of the oar cannot be lowered low enough, > to make sufficient contact with the water. The top shank of the oar simply > runs into unmoving bronze oarlock. One way to fix that is to obviously put > some kind of cantilevered backing plate between the coaming and the > exterior backing plate, but really, that would be a lot of work. I'd have > to cut all new, longer bolts, in addition to other fun stuff. So, as an > easier alternative, am going to try using Sea Dog's Heavy Duty Clamp-On > Oarlocks. They rotate at an angle opposite the plane of the coaming. So > who knows, it might work. I should know sometime this spring. Again, > even if this rotatable oarlock allows for the oar paddle to be lowered far > enough into the water, the angle might be so severe, that rowing might only > be feasible while standing up. That's okay, I suppose. One of John > Harris/CLC's latest designs has a rowing feature where the rower clearly > can only row while standing. Another issue is the leverage - as in, too > much oar from the coaming to the water, and not enough oar between the > coaming and my hands. Will let you know how it works out. > Cheers > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < > montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to >> montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >> montgomery_boats >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Oars for M15 (Blair Ashworth) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 13:57:32 -0800 >> From: Blair Ashworth >> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com >> Subject: M_Boats: Oars for M15 >> Message-ID: >> > mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Brad, >> Here is some great info on Oars for an M15. >> Not sure if David Amundson is on this mail list, but his website >> has some great info. >> >> http://leaguecity.dyndns.org:1953/trekka/Decksweepers.htm >> >> http://www.compassionfitness.com/trekka - Then click on his upgrades >> link. >> >> He has technical link as well to figure out the proper length. He built his >> 10 feet long. >> Don't know how you'd store those on an M15, but perhaps you could find some >> 2-piece oars like they use at Gig Harbor SCAMP. >> >> They use these: >> *Oars, 9?4? 2-piece fiberglass shaft with bronze oarlocks ??. $ 329 pr.* >> *Website is: http://www.ghboats.com/boats/boats-12-to-8-ft/12-scamp/ >> * >> >> >> *Anyway, if you find any good alternatives, pass them along. I would be >> interested in installing oar locks and oars on my M15 as well.* >> *Blair* >> *M15 #126* >> >> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 15:14:07 -0500 >> From: brad kurlancheek >> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com >> Subject: M_Boats: Trolling motor for auxiliary propulsion >> Message-ID: >> > mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> I can surely see the need for power to out >> maneuver bad currents/bad winds/bad seas. >> A minnkota 30 probably won't measure up in such situation. >> For calm waters, though, it'll get the job done. But after a few >> hours, the battery's going to run out. >> That said, last year I'd installed a pair of oarlocks >> on the coamings, and made a portable wooden >> bench, to fit across the seats, snug up close >> to the companionway. This is on an M15. I >> also took along a pair of 10' composite 2 part oars, which i'd >> stored in the no man's land underneath the cockpit area. >> Hauled the boat down to Raystown Lake, PA, in early >> October for a 5-day cruise. On day 2, got the oars >> in place, for a test run, and found that I couldn't angle the oars down >> into the water far enough. So much for that idea. When I got >> back I ordered a pair of rotatable oar locks. Hoping that solves the >> problem. The only remaining question is whether there'll be sufficient >> leverage to be able to apply to the oars, if the beam to oar length ratio >> is too low. If I can get 2 knots in calm waters, that's plenty, and won't >> have to panic when the minnkota battery runs out of juice. >> >> As to all the creature comforts issue while on a cruise, well, sure, >> there's benefits, >> obviously, to having them. Personally tho, I can use to suffer some for a >> few days; it's all >> part of getting out there, for me. And less weight. The lighter the boat, >> the >> more likely it's going to sail in light winds, and the less I'm going to >> need to rely >> on oars or minnkota. I took out the cushions that go in the cabin. It >> allows for >> more headroom, and yep, less weight. The boat came with a propane powered >> Lehr. Haven't used it yet. It must be 50 lbs. For me, if the thing >> hanging off >> the transom, is to heavy that it requires me to sit farther up toward the >> companionway just to keep >> the boat balanced, then the thing hanging off the transom needs to go. But >> this is for an M15. >> It may not be an issue on an M17. >> Cheers >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> montgomery_boats mailing list >> montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 169, Issue 7 >> ************************************************ > >