In a message dated 4/7/2006 2:05:42 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, Jslubliner@aol.com writes: My interest is in fostering additional information among interested parties who share a common hobby or product. If Mr. Eeg wants to give away advertising in the form of tee shirts, hats, etc., for his products, I'd love to have it, but am not interested in underwriting this advertising... Just a thought. John in Tucson Coyote - M17FD #69 I agree with John's view as stated above, no need to advertise for a manufacturer that is not assisting in underwriting the expense. Gary in Phoenix (rather be in Tucson!) M-17STBTR #316A "We must not promise what we ought not, lest we be called on to perform what we cannot." -- Abraham Lincoln