.......so........ how do you back up?? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <chbenneck@sbcglobal.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: What do you think of Dovekies?
Hi Rick,
Yesterday I did some homework on "Yuloh"
If you go to Google and enter "Yuloh" you will find 25 pages of yuloh information:
- History
- Use: The Chinese have used yulohs for centuries to move heavy vessels
- Construction
- Problems with use
One man shows how he built a yuloh and is moving his shanty dock with it.
Another is using a yuloh as propulsion on a 5 ton 32 foot long Herreshoff sloop
Look for the "bbs.trailersailors.com/forums/potter/index.cgl/noframes/read/75464" where George Salley has photos of a yuloh he built and it's installation.
The advantage of the yuloh over oars is that with the oars only half of the stroke is expending useful energy to move the boat; the return stroke is work but doesn't move the boat. With the yuloh, on the other hand, each stroke is useful work to move the boat forward - there is no waste motion.
Have fun thinking about your new yuloh project.
Connie
Rick Langer wrote:
Connie,
Like we always discuss, all boats are a compromise, but there's always that urge in me to find perfection. The Dovekie has some unique features that seem to make it a fine camp cruiser when conditions are ideal, but it seems to be lacking when facing contingency situations.
Connie said, "Admittedly, accommodations are tight; but in all other aspects it has what is needed in any ship: good storage for sails; anchors; fenders; and all the gear that accumulates as you travel; the Bimini; swim ladder; outboard fuel; cleaning equipment and supplies; it sails beautifully, is seaworthy, and is trailerable behind a small car. You can't ask for more in 15 feet length."
You're so right about the virtues of this little ship. I'm reminded of the time you introduced me to the M15 and convinced me it was the boat for me, when I thought I wanted an M17. I'm sure I would have happy with a 17 "for awhile", but the extra effort required to rig, launch, retrieve and pack up just doesn't seem to be offset by additional advantages.
BTW, I didn't get the url for the website you mentioned in your last post. I'm interested in sculling, but I'm a bit skeptical as to moving the fat little M15 with a yuloh. I made a pair of ten foot oars for my boat. They marginally work and storage is difficult.
Yours for a fair tide,
Rick
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:52:38 -0400 From: "chbenneck@sbcglobal.net" <chbenneck@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: M_Boats: What do you think of Dovekies? To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <490B9A46.3040201@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi Rick,
Here is an interesting website I found about a Frenchman who has developed another version of a yuloh.
Since it seems to be a take-apart yuloh, I think it would be ideal for an M15.
See the attached website:
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Thursday, 10 July 2008 A new design of sculling oar Here's an interesting sculling oar, developed by Guy Capra in Toulon. His blog is in French, so I have probably got this wrong, but Guy points out that sculling over the transom is a difficult skill to learn because it involves a counter-intuitive figure-of-eight movement of the handle. His design, dubbed godyoto (godille is French for stern oar), has a crank in it that forces the blade to turn in the right direction when you pull the handle. Traditional Chinese yulohs are bent, like the godyoto, but don't have the crank. The pictures make it clearer. And the video makes it clear it works.
20080424 1er essai GODYOTO by Alomphega
I tried over-the-stern sculling in Nessy a couple of weeks back, using a long oar I bought off eBay, and made little headway though I did manage to go forwards rather than in circles. If the godyoto really does work it would be brilliant for sculling round harbours. As a bonus, the crank splits the oar in half for easy stowing in the boat when not in use. (Thanks to Duckworks for the heads-up) Posted by Chris at 09:02 0 comments:
Connie
chbenneck@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Hi Rick,
Those are always the problems to consider.....
Our Bolger MICRO was ideal, and was an excellent sailer, but..... stepping a 20 foot free standing mast became too much. Phil Bolger recognized the problem and made a newer version with the mast in a tabernacle, where it could be easily raised.
However, by then I was into the ComPac 16 - easy mast stepping, but that was about it.
Having learned of the ComPac problems, I went looking for a "real" ship, and found it in the M15.
Admittedly, accommodations are tight; but in all other aspects it has what is needed in any ship: good storage for sails; anchors; fenders; and all the gear that accumulates as you travel; the Bimini; swim ladder; outboard fuel; cleaning equipment and supplies; it sails beautifully, is seaworthy, and is trailerable behind a small car. You can't ask for more in 15 feet length.
When we sold LEPPO, I was building a yuloh so that I could scull the M15, if need be. Why row facing backwards, when you can scull facing forward....?
Connie
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