Regarding the winery scale; your lucky to have found one empty long enough to weigh something other than grapes in this banner vintage! -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 11:13 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Weight of boat and Pacific trailer I know. I would love to do that. I would have to launch the boat somewhere, tie it to the dock, quickly go somewhere to weigh the trailer…Not sure how to orchestrate that. Daniel On Sep 27, 2012, at 9:10 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Good idea to double check with a gravel pit/landscape scale. Let us know what you find out...too bad you can't pull the boat off and weigh them separately... :-)
cheers, John S.
On 09/27/2012 08:58 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
OK, I'm thinking I've got to try another scale. There is a landscape supply place near here. They have a scale. It must be much smaller. Folks come with pickup trucks, and they weigh the truck before and after the gravel dump. So, the range would be smaller. I'll call them. Hmm.
Daniel On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:50 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Could there be a mistake in the weighing? Just wondering...seems like you'd feel some scary stuff with a rig that heavy on a car rated 1000 lb. but sounds like it doesn't drive that scary.
cheers, John S.
On 09/27/2012 08:33 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
The whole thing is a bit concerning. I am just shocked at the total weight. I really am.
I have been towing all over the place with my Honda Accord, with no problems. I leave lots of space for braking. Now, an emergency braking situation could be dicey. My Outback is rated at 2700 lbs, but the caveat there is that above 1000 pounds they recommend that the trailer have brakes. Whoo boy.
Daniel On Sep 27, 2012, at 8:29 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
Aloha,
If you mean etrailer.com, their ratings are way off for vehicles I have personally owned that are on the small end of things. They are quoting 2000 lb. towing capacity for at least two small cars I know are mfg. rated at 1000 lb. capacity, and that with caveats about "not really recommended for serious towing, and be really careful, or only with 5-speed, or only with automatic, and so on..."
There are some other online databases for tow ratings that seem more accurate, this being one: http://www.campinglife.com/tow-ratings-database/
...I found another that appeared to be pulling from same base data, can't find it now but it had a few more mfg. details.
cheers, John S.
On 09/27/2012 04:54 PM, August Trometer wrote:
Go to "E Trailor" and look up your car - they have hitches for ALL, and give the towing capability - most lighter/smaller cars are 200 TW, 2000 to pull or MORE
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Rich Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:48 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Weight of boat and Pacific trailer
Montypals:
I have posted to this forum before with regards to the tongue weight of my Pacific trailer with my M15 on it. It weighs in at 180 pounds at the ball. So, I figured I would move the chassis relative to the trailer. First I needed an accurate weight of the two for a good estimate. So, today I went to a local truck scale and weight the boat and trailer without the car. Hard to believe, but the M15 plus trailer came in at 1620 pounds! That means my trailer must weigh close to 800 pounds. I can't believe it. The boat does not particularly have any extra weight from stock. It has a bow and stern pulpit, and a few odd and ends in the cockpit and cabin. I have a small anchor, some rode, sails, boom, a few cushions, boat hook, etc. All incidentals. I'm shocked by this. I will not need to change the tongue weight obviously, but it calls into question my tow vehicles. I have been towing the boat quite successfully for 2 years with my Honda Accord. Anybody else weigh one of these things? Somebody had one shipped east, and I gotta figure they had a weight of the boat and trailer?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
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