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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Hatches (Gary M Hyde) 2. Re: Hatches (Gary M Hyde) 3. Re: Hatches (GILASAILR@aol.com) 4. Rope Halyard (John Gonzalez) 5. Re: M-17 sheaves or mast head fitting (Bob From California) 6. Re: Rope Halyard (Bob From California) 7. Re: robbin roddewig advice on bottom painting/refurbishing...M-17 (Michael Ray Wisely) 8. Re: Subject: Hatches "Joe" (Michael Ray Wisely)
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:23:51 -0700 From: Gary M Hyde Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hatches To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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Well, it keeps the water out better. --Gary On Apr 26, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I notice all the pictures I've seen of the M-17's have the forward hatch hinged so the hatch opens aft. Why don't they open forward so as to scoop air to circulate down below.
Joe
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:24:47 -0700 From: Gary M Hyde Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hatches To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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And it stays shut when trailering and you forgot to lock it down. --Gary On Apr 26, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Joe Murphy wrote:
I notice all the pictures I've seen of the M-17's have the forward hatch hinged so the hatch opens aft. Why don't they open forward so as to scoop air to circulate down below.
Joe
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Message: 3 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:50:58 EDT From: GILASAILR@aol.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hatches To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
And it doesn't "blow" air into your cabin - it pulls it out- much friendlier action esp when it is 'breezy'. GO
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Message: 4 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:00:06 -0700 From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: M_Boats: Rope Halyard To: Message-ID:
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Robbin, I switched from a wire/rope main halyard to a rope main halyard a few years ago -- as I have led my lines aft -- and have no complaints whatsoever.
Sincerely, John M-15 624, Bella
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Message: 5 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:07:06 +0000 From: Bob From California Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17 sheaves or mast head fitting To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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Robbin...
I have a box full of those custom sheaves. (if you have the stock masthead from
the old days). Give me a call on Monday and I will send you some. These are for the
1/8th inch wire halyard. In order to use all rope, you're going to have to widen the groove
for the rope. We use all rope these days. What I did was install a 1/4 inch bolt with nut
in the center and chuck the bolt into a high speed drill press (vertical lathe...). Then
just held a series of files and sand paper to widen the groove to accomodate the rope.
Now days we use the dwyer masthead for the DM-6 mast; it's already set up for rope.
(part number DH-106)
Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:05:30 -0400> From: robbin.roddewig@verizon.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: M-17 sheaves or mast head fitting>> One of my sheaves (the wheels for the halyards) is broken. I have not> been successful finding a replacement from the selections at West Marine> or Dwyer. Has anyone replaced these or has anyone bought a new mast> head for the M-17? I saw that there was a recommendation of Dwyer DM-4> for the M-15 but not similar recommended mast tube size for the 17.> I am also trying to replace the wire halyards with rope halyards since I> am leading these back to the cockpit. Is anyone using rope halyards?>> Thanks in advance,> Robbin>>>>> _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Message: 6 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:16:34 +0000 From: Bob From California Subject: Re: M_Boats: Rope Halyard To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
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Hi John..!
Hows Bella...?.....I did the same thing on the M_15s. We now use all rope. What we do now
is punch out the pins for the masthead sheaves; install the rope halyards and replace the pins
with stainless 1/4 inch bolts and aircraft locknuts. Those old style pins have a way of working loose.
We're now shipping new M_15s and M_17s with all rope halyards that are long enough to set
up a lines aft system for singlehanding. If the new owner wants to work his rig at the base of the
mast, then he can simply cut the line shorter. Also we are installing a turnbuckle on the headstay
for the 15s as standard. More and more people are using the CDI furler and this saves having to
obtain a new headstay with turnbuckle..etc....A bonus is you can get the rig tighter as well.
Hope all is well down in San Diego...
Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:00:06 -0700> From: jgonzalez@usgimedical.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Rope Halyard>> Robbin, I switched from a wire/rope main halyard to a rope main halyard> a few years ago -- as I have led my lines aft -- and have no complaints> whatsoever.>> Sincerely,> John> M-15 624, Bella> _______________________________________________> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Message: 7 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:32:06 -0700 From: Michael Ray Wisely Subject: Re: M_Boats: robbin roddewig advice on bottom painting/refurbishing...M-17 To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
On 4/26/08 7:20 PM, "montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com" wrote:
robbin roddewig
Thanks for the advice Robbin,
I will take all of the advice I've been given and put it to the test so I can possibly give out my experience at some future date. This is really a great list with many generous people on it.
It isn't too late btw, I have not even touched the boat as I've been too busy with work. I'm afraid by the time I do, it will be the summer wind season on the SF Bay and that limits the days you can go out because of tide timing and such. Now if I just had a flexible furler with a genoa I might be able to tackle it single handed. My family will not go out in a blow. (and I don't blame them really, it can get really nasty out there for a small boat on a summer afternoon.)
I read somewhere on the list about painting inside the centerboard trunk with some of the thin rollers they sell. I've seen them at Home Depot.
If you have pictures of your process, send me a link.
And let me ask you a couple of CB questions since you are in the middle of it.
1. Which way to the CB pins drive out and what is the process?
2. What do you use to secure them back in?
3. Are there any trouble spots in these two task to keep in mind?
Thanks for your message. It is much appreciated.
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Message: 8 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:46:55 -0700 From: Michael Ray Wisely Subject: Re: M_Boats: Subject: Hatches "Joe" To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
On 4/26/08 7:20 PM, "montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com" wrote:
Subject: M_Boats: Hatches Hi Joe,
I was puzzled by that as well, however, I'm sure one of the reasons would become apparent if you were motoring or sailing in chop and nosed into a swell. Water over the bow would keep the hatch down in it's current configuration (if it was to come unlatched or left open) , but not so much if it opened forward. Imagine the water intake in such a situation. Yikes!
On vessels with more foredeck between the bow and a forward hatch, it's probably not so much of an issue. Come to think of it, I believe the Chris Craft 32' that I owned many years ago had a rear facing hatch as well...hmmm.
My "unlearned, non-sailboat designing" opinion.
Michael Ray
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