8 May
2013
8 May
'13
5:24 p.m.
Nice, thanks! Daniel On 5/8/2013 10:04 AM, W David Scobie wrote: > Steve: > > i do like my 4L V6. lots of HP and in the last two years towed boats about 45,000 from coast to coast. all of this is with a small camper on the truck. > > i've attached a picture showing my setup. i no longer own the M15 pictured (photo from June '08). for 'current' status just imagine a M17 or Sage 17 behind the truck. > > > :: Dave Scobie > > --- On Wed, 5/8/13, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote: > >> Dave, >> Get the V-6, not the smaller 4 cylinder. >> The folks who compiled the specs or wrote the advertising >> brochures have probably never tried to tow a boat over a >> hill or on a highway. >> Steve >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "W David Scobie" <wdscobie@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:40 AM >> >> >>>> ... a base model Ranger or Tacoma with the small >> engine? >>>> Aren't they still rated higher for towing? >>> the 'base' ranger with the small 4-cylinder engine >> looks like a truck ... but it is really underpowered. >>> i don't know specifics for the much older trucks. >> my 2005 ranger owners manual says that the 2.3L 4-cyclinder >> ranger 2-wheel drive, standard cab with a 6' bed can handle >> a trailer 1600 lbs. now the BUT the GCWR is >> 4800. 7' bed trailer weight 1520 lbs, GCWR 4800. >> extended 'super' cab with 6' bed 1420 lbs and GCWR 4800. >>> go to an automatic and gain an extra 600 lbs of towing >> capacity and 700 lbs GCWR. >>> the 'dry' curb weight for the standard ranger is 3050 >> lbs (no passengers, no gas, no cooler of beer). my >> bet, as the listed weight is 'stripped' truck, is the real >> curb weight is around 3500 lbs and then add your weight + >> your stuff. >>> after showing the numbers i'll say way i said 'no' to >> the 'little engined' ranger - >>> the 2.3L is REALLY REALLY underpowered. when i >> worked for Univ. of Minnesota in the mid-90s the department >> truck was a late 80s standard ranger with the little >> engine. OK for driving around town ... but it had >> difficulty keeping highway speed when going into a headwind >> or climbing the small Minnesota hills. yes a newer >> ranger will have more horsepower ... but not that much >> more. >>> i owned a 3.0L ranger for 11 years. the 3.0L also >> also had difficulty going into a Minnesota headwind and >> wasn't the best climber (it was a slow drive up the >> Cascades, Olympics and Rockies when i moved to Washington >> and spent many a weekend and week camping and driving in >> these mountains). i towed some utility trailers with >> this truck and it was a slug when you attempted to get up to >> highway speeds and even slower when climbing hills. >>> based on the above you will be at the max weight for a >> 2.3L ranger. i don't recommend towing at the max >> weight for a vehicle. hard on the vehicle's parts and >> hard on you as the vehicle is at the max and you will be >> working harder to control the load (braking, climbing hills, >> going down hills, turns, etc). >>> ultimately the choice is yours ... just my 2-cents and >> comments from the peanut gallery :-) >>> have no idea on the 'toyo' small truck. last time >> i drove one was back in the the 80s (a friend's, not my >> truck). >>> good hunting Daniel. >>> >>> >>> :: Dave Scobie