Charles, like you, am also a fly sailor. Used to bum around in a '61 Piper Colt. Now it's a Maule. Both good airplanes. Both plane and boat go from A to B on the lift-from-airflow-around-a-curved-surface principle, but am still amazed how one of them goes 120 mph, while the other is lucky to reach 5, and above that is just too fast, sort of like yellow or red lining the airspeed in the plane. Good luck with your future M17 adventures, and getting yourself another plane. - Brad On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:00 PM < montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. (Gary Froeschner) 2. Re: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. (Charles Adams) 3. Re: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. (Bob Eeg) 4. Hydeaway 2 (Gary.perser) 5. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Dave Scobie) 6. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Henry Rodriguez) 7. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Edward Epifani) 8. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Thomas Buzzi) 9. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Gary.perser) 10. Re: Hydeaway 2 (GARY M HYDE) 11. Re: Hydeaway 2 (Charles Adams)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 13:23:54 -0600 From: Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <601af84a.1c69fb81.7e3c9.4c8a@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 17:44:56 -0500 From: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: <23711689-8DC4-4C2C-AF4D-D013A2506BE5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I also wonder about her as she is 13 years younger than me as I also wonder how I?ve made it to 80. It?s disheartening when I see people stopping to do things they enjoy because of age as I?ve seen posted here. I?m in the process of building my M-17 for single handing to include raising the mast myself on or off trailer. Installing an autopilot and think I will also do self tailing winches. Already have all lines running to cockpit. I enjoy doing things myself. Have a number of adventures planned with it. How planning to start sailing first of May on Lake Ontario.
Also stilling flying and looking for another plane. Two years ago on take off I lost a wheel on an old piper. One wheel landing didn?t work out so well and flipped it. If you know any pilots they will tell you any landing you walk away from is a good landing, I walked away.
Liked your post as you appear to be like people I?ve enjoyed all my life. Don?t be to serious and enjoy life while getting the most out of it.
Charlie
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On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
?I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 00:26:58 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Transporting Montgomery Sailboat - RudderCraft rudders -Posting photos to Facebook. Message-ID: < BYAPR14MB25202A0FC36E4E5F6D9F7DE8B7B39@BYAPR14MB2520.namprd14.prod.outlook.com
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Good story Charlie On the flipped Piper....did you have sudden stoppage on the Prop..? Glad you walked away. Bob Eeg
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On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Charles Adams via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
?I also wonder about her as she is 13 years younger than me as I also wonder how I?ve made it to 80. It?s disheartening when I see people stopping to do things they enjoy because of age as I?ve seen posted here. I?m in the process of building my M-17 for single handing to include raising the mast myself on or off trailer. Installing an autopilot and think I will also do self tailing winches. Already have all lines running to cockpit. I enjoy doing things myself. Have a number of adventures planned with it. How planning to start sailing first of May on Lake Ontario.
Also stilling flying and looking for another plane. Two years ago on take off I lost a wheel on an old piper. One wheel landing didn?t work out so well and flipped it. If you know any pilots they will tell you any landing you walk away from is a good landing, I walked away.
Liked your post as you appear to be like people I?ve enjoyed all my life. Don?t be to serious and enjoy life while getting the most out of it.
Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 3, 2021, at 2:24 PM, Gary Froeschner <msogggf@gmail.com> wrote:
?I am looking for some advice for a permanent mounted stern ladder for my 1976 M-17. I want to order one that I know will fit. Does anybody have any suggestions?
Gary Froeschner gfroeschner@gmail.com
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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 09:26:39 -0600 From: "Gary.perser" <gary.perser@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <0A5BC75F-C938-4EBE-BE91-1369F3FF9BA9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
?I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 5 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 07:33:40 -0800 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CAGjBOA6Ebu7vA+SREvJ_e06u0w-SEHVL5iW045MfV4QnfQ7LnA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Welcome to the group Gary. Go sailing!!
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 7:28 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 6 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:18:51 -0600 From: Henry Rodriguez <heinzir@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CAMKG1hLAYJphzEr7nU9_OGJdUpDoG58EpbDEgD61EbvgB32Zpg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Welcome! The adventure begins!
Henry Monita M17 #310
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:28 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
-- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:33:25 +0000 From: Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: < CO1PR10MB477116BE55C4A6F4CF7541A7B2B39@CO1PR10MB4771.namprd10.prod.outlook.com
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Gary, many of us engage in quid pro quo Honey Do List negotiations with Spouses in order to sail. We Sailors sympathize. Somehow they just don?t understand when we throw ourselves into voyage prep while seeming to lack energy to mow lawn. Take Heart! As they/ we get older they like having us out of their hair. Do bathe before you get back though. If you desire a romantic sailor- home- from - the -Sea- reunion. Regards, Ed M-15 Murre
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On Feb 4, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 8 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:49:52 -0600 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <CA+TbpAWLaVpvCxi= q_MeOvseYt9c8c5rf8fvVkPhL0mRosXgDA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Hey, Gary, enjoy "the ride" (repairs) as much as the destination (launch). You will get to know your craft very well by then. I sailed my first Monty 17 on Lake Travis back in the early 1980's. They are fine boats! Fair winds, Tom Buzzi
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:27 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 9 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 11:03:17 -0600 From: "Gary.perser" <gary.perser@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <C6B3671F-A43E-415B-BFA9-59D72C955BB9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Edward, I am retired, so my dear loving and loved wife does like her peace and quiet with me out of ?our? house, but she is a worrier and wants to watch when I kill myself - so no single-handing; that?s why I bought an M17 rather than an M15. I love the M15 and like the M17. She thinks the M15 is too small, and I want to minimize her unhappiness. Because I?m 72 and endurance is waning, the honey-do list is going to take a while, even with the ?new? M17 waiting for me. I will honor my pledge of ?list completion before launch? (or even before boat projects). Gonna be tough. ? Gary M-17 #637 New Braunfels, TX
On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:33 AM, Edward Epifani <edepifani@hotmail.com> wrote:
?Gary, many of us engage in quid pro quo Honey Do List negotiations with Spouses in order to sail. We Sailors sympathize. Somehow they just don?t understand when we throw ourselves into voyage prep while seeming to lack energy to mow lawn. Take Heart! As they/ we get older they like having us out of their hair. Do bathe before you get back though. If you desire a romantic sailor- home- from - the -Sea- reunion. Regards, Ed M-15 Murre
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 10 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 10:03:47 -0800 From: GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <ED8DECD1-2B0C-463D-9307-B0F1E17FA0D8@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Enjoy! She?s a good boat; I enjoyed 10 years of sailing her. She points well. The rope that lifts the center board might need replacing. Check with Bob Egg.
~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-)
On Feb 4, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
?Hey, Gary, enjoy "the ride" (repairs) as much as the destination (launch). You will get to know your craft very well by then. I sailed my first Monty 17 on Lake Travis back in the early 1980's. They are fine boats! Fair winds, Tom Buzzi
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 9:27 AM Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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Message: 11 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:05:17 -0500 From: Charles Adams <chaada@aol.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hydeaway 2 Message-ID: <319D1467-168C-44B7-98E7-B4E029165EB0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Gary your mail of sailing on Lake Travis reminded me of when in the mid 70s I crewed on a friend?s J 24. I still remember it as beautiful lake. My friend?s dad had money so also sailed regattas out of Houston Yacht Club. Good memories.
Doing up grades on my M17 I bought last year for Lake Ontario. However have 2 ft of snow with zero temps so will be a couple months before I can work on it. It?s in a building but no heat.
Thanks for the memory
Charlie
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Gary.perser <gary.perser@gmail.com> wrote:
?I?m the guy who bought the ex-Gary Hyde M17 from Gail Russell. Currently working on getting it shipped to New Braunfels, TX to sail on Canyon Lake and Lake Travis. Corpus Christi Bay is a 3 hr tow and we plan to sail there occasionally. I also hope to tow to a few of my bucket list sailing sites, but wife Penny is a bit negative on that. I also plan to participate in a two boat informal race series on Lake Travis with Ken Tothero and his Sage 17. Yes, I know he will beat me.
A key part of the pact to allow purchase of this boat is my pledge to complete a lengthy nonsailing to-do list before we launch. I?m hoping for sometime this summer. Wish me perseverance and endurance.
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