Hi Pam, I was just in Port Townsend visiting my brother-in-law during the Seattle Boat Show. I have an M-17 with a 9.9hp Yamaha. The original owner set it up to handle adverse current, tide, wave...and sailed it in the San Juans. It is not only overkill for even those conditions but it does adversely affect sailing especially when you add two 12v batteries and external gas tank. However, there have been positive trade offs. Having said all of that, I am looking at 4hp or smaller, myself. I have sailed in the San Juans on a much larger (44'steel hulled cutter) boat and motor sailed a lot of the time because of not always optimal winds to counteract currents. All the Best, Randy Wirth M-17 "Fore Play" -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:23 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 110, Issue 1 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: motors (pam and dana) 2. Re: motors (Doug Kelch) 3. M17 Compression Post (Beowulf) 4. Re: M17 Compression Post (W David Scobie) 5. Re: M17 Compression Post (jerry montgomery) 6. (no subject) (jerry montgomery) 7. Re: M17 Compression Post (Tod) 8. Re: M17 Compression Post (Bob Eeg) 9. Re: M17 Compression Post (Joe Murphy) 10. Re: M17 Compression Post (Tim Diebert) 11. Re: M17 Compression Post (Joe Murphy) 12. Interior Paint (Joe Murphy) 13. Re: M17 Compression Post (Beowulf) 14. Re: M17 Compression Post (eisenee@aol.com) 15. Re: M17 Compression Post (Tod) 16. Re: M17 Compression Post (jerry montgomery) 17. Another Sail Question? (Jeffrey Johnston) 18. Re: sailplans for Monty 15 (Robert Hall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:27:45 -0700 From: pam and dana <denko@broadstripe.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: motors Message-ID: <FC193C57-E6CE-418E-BEA5-7A00D427CA15@broadstripe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Going back to the motor thread: We are unable to lift the Nissan 4hp motor up and down for the "new" 1981 boat we just bought. Home sailing ground is Port Townsend, Wa and the Sound is full of currents and tides to work against. Summer sailing is not the windiest time of year but the currents remain and I am concerned that we have a big enough motor. Has anyone used a pulley system off a stern rail to lift the motor in place? We have the cut out transom. Pam On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Connie, As usual, you and others in the group have provided valuable data to chew on. You all have a nice day. Tom
On Mar 28, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 28-Mar-12 8:07 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Hi Tom,
Some years ago, an owner of an M17 - without a motor - had to take his M17 up the Thames River to a launch ramp.
I had an M15 with a 2 HP HONDA.
I took the HONDA 2 HP to New London, CT and mounted it on the M17.
With four adults in the cockpit, we went upriver against the outgoing tide and the HONDA 2 HP had no problem with that load.
Could we tow a water skier? No. But 3 to 4 Knots upstream with four adults in the cockpit is acceptable performance as far as I'm concerned.
Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
It seems as if my back no longer likes lifting a 50 lb Honda 5 from the car to the transom of my M17. Has anyone out there used an air-cooled Honda 2 hp 4 stroke with success on such a boat? If so, what kinds of speeds can you cruise a few miles at, and what is the approximate fuel consumption at speed? I certainly don't want to run more motor than I have to. (Dave Scobie, I think you ran a small motor on Air Born in the San Juans, but I can't remember the details.) Thanks a bunch,)
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:02:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: motors Message-ID: <1333227730.11300.YahooMailNeo@web120505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Pam, Can't say I have done it but if you do it from there it will be a two person job.? The stern rail isn't far enough outboard for a direct lift. You would need one person to hold the motor off of the transom while the other person hauls on the tackle.? You might consider making an arm, attached to a pole that has pintles to match the gudeons. Once the mast is up you can replace the? mast carrier with the hoist arm contraption. The mast carrier you have may be strong enough for an attachment but....? Just food for thought. Doug Kelch, "Seas the Day" M15 G #310 ________________________________ From: pam and dana <denko@broadstripe.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: motors Going back to the motor thread: We are unable to lift the Nissan 4hp motor up and down for the "new" 1981 boat we just bought.? Home sailing ground is Port Townsend, Wa and the Sound is full of currents and tides to work against.? Summer sailing is not the windiest time of year but the currents remain and I am concerned that we have a big enough motor.? Has anyone used a pulley system off a stern rail to lift the motor in place? We have the cut out transom. Pam On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Connie, As usual, you and others in the group have provided valuable data to chew on.? You all have a nice day. Tom
On Mar 28, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Conbert Benneck wrote:
On 28-Mar-12 8:07 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Hi Tom,
Some years ago, an owner of an M17 - without a motor - had to take his M17 up the Thames River to a launch ramp.
I had an M15 with a 2 HP HONDA.
I took the HONDA 2 HP to New London, CT and mounted it on the M17.
With four adults in the cockpit, we went upriver against the outgoing tide and the HONDA 2 HP had no problem with that load.
Could we tow a water skier?? No.? But 3 to 4 Knots upstream with four adults in the cockpit is acceptable performance as far as I'm concerned.
Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO
It seems as if my back no longer likes lifting a 50 lb Honda 5 from the car to the transom of my M17.? Has anyone out there used an air-cooled Honda 2 hp 4 stroke with success on such a boat?? If so, what kinds of speeds can you cruise a few miles at, and what is the approximate fuel consumption at speed?? I certainly don't want to run more motor than I have to.? (Dave Scobie, I think you ran a small motor on Air Born in the San Juans, but I can't remember the details.) Thanks a bunch,)
Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:15:40 -0700 From: "Beowulf" <beowulf2@cox.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <35BC27F3992C4431B9E5DA5FE20DC33B@Mike> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello All: Does anyone know what the pipe size is of the M17 Stainless steel compression post? Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:52:57 -0700 (PDT) From: W David Scobie <wdscobie@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <1333245177.74636.YahooMailClassic@web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 the compression post in the M17 doesn't need to be stainless steel. the compression post is actually two pieces - one from the v-berth to the cabin top.? a second section is under the v-berth. on SWEET PEA the section between the v-berth and the cabin top is a round aluminum tube about 3" diameter (i've not measured it ... just banged it with my head, shoulders, arms ...).? not sure the wall thickness. the lower section is a short section of mast (even has the sail slug grove). :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Sat, 3/31/12, Beowulf <beowulf2@cox.net> wrote:
Hello All: Does anyone know what the pipe size is of the M17 Stainless steel compression post?
Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA
------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:01:01 -0700 From: "jerry montgomery" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <FCBDAD133C32474EAAC6C714EF895E01@jerryws10> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" If it's a boat I made, and if it's an aluminum tube, it's 2 1/4" OD jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beowulf" <beowulf2@cox.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 6:15 PM Subject: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Hello All: Does anyone know what the pipe size is of the M17 Stainless steel compression post? Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6336 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:06:15 -0700 From: "jerry montgomery" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: "montgomery forum" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: (no subject) Message-ID: <4072D6A14B1147A9B7DFBCF749A1F67B@jerryws10> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hi Dave- What are you doing working on Sat? jerry -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6336 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:39:48 -0400 From: "Tod" <htmills@zoominternet.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <003001cd0fb0$b4c65550$1e52fff0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On mine, #408, it is made of a section of mast, iirc. I wrapped it with blue sleeping pad and covered that with upholstery, Velcro-ed in place. Makes touching it while sleeping less of a waker-upper. http://www.peppypawspoochpark.com/htmills/images/LF-BuscaCabinFwd.jpg Tod
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of W David Scobie Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 9:53 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
the compression post in the M17 doesn't need to be stainless steel.
the compression post is actually two pieces - one from the v-berth to the cabin top.? a second section is under the v-berth.
on SWEET PEA the section between the v-berth and the cabin top is a round aluminum tube about 3" diameter (i've not measured it ... just banged it with my head, shoulders, arms ...).? not sure the wall thickness.
the lower section is a short section of mast (even has the sail slug grove).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com
--- On Sat, 3/31/12, Beowulf <beowulf2@cox.net> wrote:
Hello All: Does anyone know what the pipe size is of the M17 Stainless steel compression post?
Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA
------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:53:43 -0700 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <BLU162-W31491743FBEBEAEA1055C5B74F0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Mike I use a 7/8 stainless tube with a flange on each end. The Newest 17s have no compression post. I have some tubes if you need one. Bob Montgomery boats. (949) 489-8227
From: beowulf2@cox.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:15:40 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
Hello All: Does anyone know what the pipe size is of the M17 Stainless steel compression post?
Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA
------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 09:34:40 -0400 From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <165A81E5186B4C8897D421D124B572C4@D72VSMG1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bob, What are you using in place of the compression post? Is your new solution something that can be retrofitted to a 2002 M17?? Joe SeaFrog #651 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Eeg To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:53 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Hi Mike I use a 7/8 stainless tube with a flange on each end. The Newest 17s have no compression post. I have some tubes if you need one. Bob Montgomery boats. (949) 489-8227
From: beowulf2@cox.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:15:40 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
Hello All: Does anyone know what the pipe size is of the M17 Stainless steel compression post?
Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA
------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 07:02:53 -0700 From: "Tim Diebert" <tim@timtone.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <001101cd1010$21f3a830$65daf890$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Bob, What are you using in place of the compression post? Is your new solution something that can be retrofitted to a 2002 M17?? Joe SeaFrog #651
It has always been a vague back brain plan for me to somehow remove that comp post and fab a 'deckhead' arch/brace or a deckbeam of some kind. I saw a 20 foot Beneteau that has something like this.... Tim of the North ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:09:20 -0400 From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <B5BCF59BF07D4EA9BFD04FC68DA0C5E3@D72VSMG1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I agree. Fabricating something using a cold molded approach is doable, but if Bob has a pattern to use, that would be a great start. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Diebert To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 10:02 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
Bob, What are you using in place of the compression post? Is your new solution something that can be retrofitted to a 2002 M17?? Joe SeaFrog #651
It has always been a vague back brain plan for me to somehow remove that comp post and fab a 'deckhead' arch/brace or a deckbeam of some kind. I saw a 20 foot Beneteau that has something like this.... Tim of the North ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:11:46 -0400 From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Interior Paint Message-ID: <E0355ED7482A4329A627022F5D1CB51F@D72VSMG1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'd like to paint the interior of my M17. I don't want to get too glossy. Any suggestions what is the best thing to use??? Thanks, Joe SeaFrog M17 ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:37:04 -0700 From: "Beowulf" <beowulf2@cox.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <2A78A6FF05E04A0EB52D2A8842EE888A@Mike> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello All: thanks for responses. The reason for my inquiry is that I have a 31 year old Monty 15 that has a masthead rig, which was set-up by the original owner (without a compression post) and I have always like it. I have not used my boat in years but am restoring it and setting it up (the way I should have done years ago). I am not going to change the rig to the three point rig on a typical M15 so Jerry Montgomery suggested that I add a post. So now I am at the point in my boat restoration that I need to add this post and noticed that some M17s have a SS compression post that did not appear to have a very large diameter. My plan, now that I have received responses from my group question, is to get a compression post from Bob Eeg and modify it to fit in my M15. I really appreciate this group because when asked you always have good suggestions to help those of us that are in need of advice, etc. I hope to see you guys out at Havasu at the HPCC next February. PS: I have no idea if there is any kind of mechanical/sailing advantage to having a masthead rig versus the 3 point fractional rig on a M15. Just know that I like it. Thanks, Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 6:34 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Bob, What are you using in place of the compression post? Is your new solution something that can be retrofitted to a 2002 M17?? Joe SeaFrog #651 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Eeg To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:53 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Hi Mike I use a 7/8 stainless tube with a flange on each end. The Newest 17s have no compression post. I have some tubes if you need one. Bob Montgomery boats. (949) 489-8227
From: beowulf2@cox.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:15:40 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
Hello All: Does anyone know what the pipe size is of the M17 Stainless steel compression post?
Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA
------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:39:05 -0400 (EDT) From: eisenee@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <8CEDE6F608CCE1A-1458-D128@Webmail-d124.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The old McGregors had a mahogany 2x2 comp post , my 1992 Monty has a mast extrusion. I would think an oak 2x2 would do the job and cost less them ss Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: Beowulf <beowulf2@cox.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 1, 2012 12:37 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Hello All: thanks for responses. The reason for my inquiry is that I have a 1 year old Monty 15 that has a masthead rig, which was set-up by the riginal owner (without a compression post) and I have always like it. I ave not used my boat in years but am restoring it and setting it up (the ay I should have done years ago). I am not going to change the rig to the hree point rig on a typical M15 so Jerry Montgomery suggested that I add a ost. So now I am at the point in my boat restoration that I need to add his post and noticed that some M17s have a SS compression post that did not ppear to have a very large diameter. My plan, now that I have received esponses from my group question, is to get a compression post from Bob Eeg nd modify it to fit in my M15. I really appreciate this group because when asked you always have good uggestions to help those of us that are in need of advice, etc. I hope to ee you guys out at Havasu at the HPCC next February. PS: I have no idea if there is any kind of mechanical/sailing advantage to aving a masthead rig versus the 3 point fractional rig on a M15. Just know hat I like it. Thanks, Mike Hall 15 #167 "Dreki" ustin, CA ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> o: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> ent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 6:34 AM ubject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post ob, hat are you using in place of the compression post? Is your new solution omething that can be retrofitted to a 2002 M17?? oe eaFrog #651 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Eeg To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:53 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Hi Mike I use a 7/8 stainless tube with a flange on each end. The Newest 17s have o compression post. I have some tubes if you need one. Bob Montgomery boats. (949) 489-8227
From: beowulf2@cox.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:15:40 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
Hello All: Does anyone know what the pipe size is of the M17 Stainless teel compression post?
Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA
------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 18:55:54 -0400 From: "Tod" <htmills@zoominternet.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <008f01cd105a$97d34980$c779dc80$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Wooden handrailing section? Porch railing spindle? Wood would be "warmer" than metal... Tod
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of eisenee@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 6:39 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
The old McGregors had a mahogany 2x2 comp post , my 1992 Monty has a mast extrusion. I would think an oak 2x2 would do the job and cost less them ss
Eldor M17 Motu iti
-----Original Message----- From: Beowulf <beowulf2@cox.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 1, 2012 12:37 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
Hello All: thanks for responses. The reason for my inquiry is that I have a 1 year old Monty 15 that has a masthead rig, which was set-up by the riginal owner (without a compression post) and I have always like it. I ave not used my boat in years but am restoring it and setting it up (the ay I should have done years ago). I am not going to change the rig to the hree point rig on a typical M15 so Jerry Montgomery suggested that I add a ost. So now I am at the point in my boat restoration that I need to add his post and noticed that some M17s have a SS compression post that did not ppear to have a very large diameter. My plan, now that I have received esponses from my group question, is to get a compression post from Bob Eeg nd modify it to fit in my M15. I really appreciate this group because when asked you always have good uggestions to help those of us that are in need of advice, etc. I hope to ee you guys out at Havasu at the HPCC next February. PS: I have no idea if there is any kind of mechanical/sailing advantage to aving a masthead rig versus the 3 point fractional rig on a M15. Just know hat I like it. Thanks, Mike Hall 15 #167 "Dreki" ustin, CA ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> o: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> ent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 6:34 AM ubject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
ob, hat are you using in place of the compression post? Is your new solution omething that can be retrofitted to a 2002 M17?? oe eaFrog #651 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Eeg To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:53 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
Hi Mike I use a 7/8 stainless tube with a flange on each end. The Newest 17s have o compression post. I have some tubes if you need one. Bob Montgomery boats. (949) 489-8227
From: beowulf2@cox.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:15:40 -0700 > Subject: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post > > Hello All: Does anyone know what the pipe size is of the M17 Stainless teel compression post?
Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA
------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 15:58:01 -0700 From: "jerry montgomery" <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Message-ID: <2A196AFD6FA14B19B3CB95A965DD855F@jerryws10> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" When I used to buy mast extrusions 100 lbs at a time I'd always get two or three twisted ones, and I'd chop them up anmd use them for mast posts. I 'd agree with Eldor- go to Home Depot and get a hardwood 2X2. Varnish it up and it'll be good to go. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <eisenee@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post The old McGregors had a mahogany 2x2 comp post , my 1992 Monty has a mast extrusion. I would think an oak 2x2 would do the job and cost less them ss Eldor M17 Motu iti -----Original Message----- From: Beowulf <beowulf2@cox.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 1, 2012 12:37 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Hello All: thanks for responses. The reason for my inquiry is that I have a 1 year old Monty 15 that has a masthead rig, which was set-up by the riginal owner (without a compression post) and I have always like it. I ave not used my boat in years but am restoring it and setting it up (the ay I should have done years ago). I am not going to change the rig to the hree point rig on a typical M15 so Jerry Montgomery suggested that I add a ost. So now I am at the point in my boat restoration that I need to add his post and noticed that some M17s have a SS compression post that did not ppear to have a very large diameter. My plan, now that I have received esponses from my group question, is to get a compression post from Bob Eeg nd modify it to fit in my M15. I really appreciate this group because when asked you always have good uggestions to help those of us that are in need of advice, etc. I hope to ee you guys out at Havasu at the HPCC next February. PS: I have no idea if there is any kind of mechanical/sailing advantage to aving a masthead rig versus the 3 point fractional rig on a M15. Just know hat I like it. Thanks, Mike Hall 15 #167 "Dreki" ustin, CA ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> o: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> ent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 6:34 AM ubject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post ob, hat are you using in place of the compression post? Is your new solution omething that can be retrofitted to a 2002 M17?? oe eaFrog #651 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Eeg To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:53 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post Hi Mike I use a 7/8 stainless tube with a flange on each end. The Newest 17s have o compression post. I have some tubes if you need one. Bob Montgomery boats. (949) 489-8227
From: beowulf2@cox.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:15:40 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: M17 Compression Post
Hello All: Does anyone know what the pipe size is of the M17 Stainless teel compression post?
Mike Hall M15 #167 "Dreki" Tustin, CA
-- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6336 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 11:02:21 -0500 From: Jeffrey Johnston <frjeff@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Another Sail Question? Message-ID: <CAFS5qAtzjd99gaJciV6KSjaL2zZDnvXQeutCv802BaE8r9C30Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am narrowing it down to a few lofts to order new main and 128 gen. for my M15. Quotes range from a low of $550 to $841. Also, the sailcloth quoted ranges from a low of 4oz to 6.3oz respectively. I have read no real negatives on any of my possible lofts. I am a recreational sailor (day) and may try a few little races with the WWP guys around here. Winds here are Great Lake style (Huron). How critical is sail weight and what does the heavier cloth add to the sail (durability, longer life, just cost, etc?). *Jeff+* Mol?n labe! ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:22:55 -0400 From: "Robert Hall" <bert.hall@rogers.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: sailplans for Monty 15 Message-ID: <52BE0BC051A64BDBAA414D764CD20D36@Pavilion> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Smiley, How did the main and stock jib price out? What size jib did you get? Thanks Bert . M-15 #181 M--15#181 From: Karen and Smiley Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 7:10 AM To: Montgomery Sailboat Forum Subject: M_Boats: sailplans for Monty 15 Last year after my used purchase of M 15 #616 I sent my old sails to Dr Judy B and she measured them, she made me a new set of Hyde sails which are just superb. For insurance sake I went ahead and bought a new Potter 15 jib to use as insurance as a storm jib. I had done something similar for my Precision 21 and probably used that storm jib twice if my memory serves me right so the storm jib to me was plan B and nothing else. Got two reef points on the main sail. Judy B knows her stuff and she'd get my vote as the new old kid on the block cutting sails for Monties. New crisp well cut sails make any sailboat hummmm, I won't sail without a good well made suit of canvas..thanks Judy B J Smiley, Another Wrinkle M15 #616 magoo252@comcast.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 110, Issue 1 ************************************************