I would bet 'alot' that the new boats are heavier than the "old" boats from what I have seen. Just my observation and no science to back it up. Jerry built very good laminates, certainly not resin rich that I have ever seen on his boats (one reason to be 'heavy') - this is testament to his QC, as wrinkle boats must NOT be easy to lay-up! Just the thought gives me the willies, sliding cloth being chased up and down and across the molds on those strakes! I don't like ingesting/breathing additional nitrogen oxides. M-17 on a Trail-Rite trailer pulled by a 2003 Tacoma Dbl Cab 3.4L V6 auto 2WD - yes it is slow up hills but hauls grass on the flats. GO In a message dated 4/10/2009 11:17:52 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, andreic@math.wisc.edu writes: Hmm... That's interesting... perhaps that's why towing my M-17 feels so much heavier than my previous Compac 16. The Compac 16 is listed as 1100 lbs displacement, and the Monty 17 as 1600, but the difference felt like much more than 500 lbs. Has anyone else put an older Monty 17 and trailer on the scales? Sounds like it's time to upgrade my tow vehicle (ouch), mine has only 2000lbs tow capacity. How many people have added brakes to their trailer, and would that help? I am not too worried about engine power/transmission, as I almost only tow on flat land. Andrei. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000003)