I think you have the OEM gudgeons for that vintage. What number is your hull? My '74 #38 "Pajarita" came with two gudgeons. There was no sign of them ever having been moved or of others having been in different locations. From a look at some photos when I first got her, location was about identical to yours. Also same as Gerry L's gudgeon location. Mine also came with what I assume is the OEM rudder of that vintage, which is a two pintle fixed (no slide up, no kick up) rudder with a slight counterbalance leading edge under the keel, forward of the pivot axis. This is actually a more nimble rudder design - faster turning for less effort. But no sliding up for shallow spots/beaching/etc. I knew I would have some use for a shallower draft option. So, I bought a used, later model OEM 3-gudgeon slide up rudder from a list member, Jerry found an OEM gudgeon in his parts boxes and sold me that, and I remounted three gudgeons to fit the slide up rudder locations. I've also remounted the pintles on the original OEM counterbalance rudder to match the new top and bottom gudgeon locations, so I can use either rudder. If you want the Jerry-designed slide-up you'll need to reconfigure your stern for that. Others here have recommended a place called J-O Woodworks who can make you an OEM style wood rudder for slide-up. If you spring for the Ruddercraft kick-up, I don't know, but others here have them & could tell you if the pintle location is custom per order (e.g. keep your gudgeons where they are) or some stock position that you might have to remount for. If you happen to see this Jerry - I'm curious if you remember how many of the counterbalanced rudder 2-pintle M17s you made, way back in the olden days. cheers, John On 12/16/19 1:03 PM, David Bailey via montgomery_boats wrote:
So,,,, every picture I’ve seen of the stock rudders has the 3 pintle strap configuration. My stern is set up for 2. The stock rudder I bought also has three. Now I’m asking myself, should I relocate two on my rudder, or modify my stern for 3. I have to assume that if my M17 is original, there is a reason for having 3 on the newer generation?
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