I notice some boats have the block with the cam cleat mounted at the mast base, others have it attached at the boom end. I know it is a matter of personal preference but what is the consensus? Is it more convenient to cleat it at the top or at the bottom on a 17? My current cascaded set up has the tail lead to a cam cleat on the cabin top, just like the halyards. I imitated the setup from my VN23 but am thinking that is overkill. I want to change back to a self contained system to free up space on the cabin top. The vang will have snap shackles on each end so it can be cleated to the perforated toe rail if desired. It will be 4:1 or 3:1. I don’t see a need to add a doubler. So, top cleating or bottom cleating? Henry Monita -- Sent from Gmail Mobile