rick: i'm with tom on this ... why go on lake WA? here are my opinions - * lake washington doesn't have much 'sailable' wind in the summer * lake washington is CROWDED on holidays and weekends * lake washington is filled with alcohol fueled PWCs, ski-boats and speed-boats that have no idea the rules of the road when on-the water (or off becaue the booze) * did i mention the lake is crowed with powerboats ... well because of all these boats putting out BIG WAKES that bounce off of all the shore lake WA becomes this giant confused sea of waves -- think of your worse tide-rip situation and it is the entire lake! * the launch ramps are CRAZY with folks ... do you wish to be in the middle of this having to rig the boat? i've sailed lake WA many times in craft smaller and larger than M15/17/23s. only once was it enjoyable - mid-week off season where there was wind and NO ONE ELSE on the water (was in a neptune 24 in the late 70s). in general no location around puget sound where one can view fire works that is enjoyable, again in my opinion, on a boat. being in a 'small boat' with all the big, fast and drunk-filled boats zipping around means one would spend the time avoiding 'CRUNCH' to their lapstrake hull. my 2-cents. dave scobie M15 #288 - SCRED visit Scred's www-site: www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred Richard Everett <rick@skyko.com> wrote: My wife and I are going to put in on Lake Washington the morning of the 4th. We plan to spend the day sailing around the lake and then motor up to Lake Union, raft up to the other boats and watch the fireworks. We have never put in on Lake Washington with a sailboat, and I was wondering which boat launch you guys prefer? I was considering Magnuson Park, since it has 4 ramps and 120 spaces, but maybe there is a better place on the north side of the lake? (we are coming from the east) Best bet is to get there early, since it would really bite to set up your sailboat, launch it, then find out someone took your parking space. :-) Any chance we will see another Monty on the lake on the 4th? Rick M17-635 Eidolon