Well, first off thanks to those who have shared info with me - I've been out four times now, and things are getting better each time. I installed some cam cleats instead of the worn out jam cleats for the jib sheets, and it made sailing much more enjoyable this last time out. If there is much of a chop - say over a foot or so, I end up with two inches or so of water sloshing around in the cockpit - not so bad when it was 9o degrees out, but cold feet this last weekend!! Any ideas on how to prevent this from going on, or is this part of living with the self-draining through cb design? Jon in Walla Walla _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es