Hi Skip, you had asked for the hull number on my M10, it is MMP106140776. May not help too much but from what I know this means Montgomery Marine Products 10' hull number 614 made July of 1976. Bicentennial boat! Robbin On 6/8/2012 9:46 PM, wcampion@aol.com wrote:
If anyone would like a good laugh at how the branches of our government function, independent of each other and of course, in conflict of it's objectives, read on...........
But first, some background information:
I recently purchased an M-10 without a title. The boat had been registered in PA at one time, but not since 2006. After contacting PA, I received a document showing the registration information. After a closer look, there are several details that are incorrect. The year was listed as 1974, but based on the hull number (#177) the boat was built in 1972 or early 1973. The boat was listed as 12 foot, instead of 10 feet. The manufacture was listed as Montgomery Ward, not Montgomery Marine Products, etc.
While dealing with Maryland DNR, it became apparent that I would not be able to obtain a corrected title, since the actual boat that I bought, did not match the registration detail. So, they questioned if the boat I bought was actually the boat that I was attempting to register based on the PA registration information. They would not take my word on any of the corrections. The DNR would not allow me to register my boat and have the right to fine me for using unregistered boat. My only option was to contact PA and ask them to make the corrections to their system for a boat that is no longer registered or located in PA. To do this, I would need a Bill of Sale, for the boat I bought showing the incorrect information as listed in PA. PA was willing to make the corrections solely based on my word. No other proof was required. They would provide me a document listing the corrected information. With this information, I could then go back to MD with a 'new' Bill of Sale (this new Bill of Sale, would then have to match the corrected information) With any luck, I would then be able to secure a new title and register my boat in Maryland. Of course, if I am not able to register my boat within 30 days from the time of purchase, MD adds additional fees and penalties and interest to the cost of registration.
Here's the rub.........Maryland would not make any changes to the registration based on my word, but PA will. Once PA makes the changes, they will trust the PA records and issue a MD title. The other funny thing.............I will have to create two 'new' Bill of Sale, to match the information that each state is expecting. I am attempting to keep things legal and properly title and register my boat, but in the process, I am 'creating' various documents to make the various government agencies happy, which technically are not as legal or proper as they should be. But hey, let's not that spoil the fun!!!!
Hummm......does anyone else find this funny?