Hate to disagree with Don (well, no, I don't mind being disagreeable at all actually), but rowing an M15 is certainly an option. I've thought about it many times, but never seriously enough to work out a suitable rowing station. I'd be interested in any progress you make in this regard Rick. The bungee and jam cleat setup works well and has minimal moving parts. I tie two one foot diameter bungee loops and connect them with two foot piece of line. Drop the loops over the stern cleats with the line stretched between, across the cockpit. The jam cleat is fastened on the under side of the tiller (jam side forward)--maybe 8 inches back from the working end. You simply stretch the line forward and engage in on the jam cleat. You'll want to discover the exact dimensions of the loops and line yourself, but there's not much science to it. I guess the thing to remember is the line should be stretched taunt from one side to the other. That way there's sufficient tension to lock the tiller in place when the line's pulled forward and engaged with the jam cleat. Tom Smith and Jane Van Winkle M15--345 Chukar M17--064 Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: Rick Langer [mailto:farreach@optonline.net] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:03 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Another Happiest Day, Hi Don, I'd like that launch checklist. I've only been out two times and I agree with you. The first things I needed were a tiller tie down and a topping lift. I used what I think is a spinnaker halyard as a topping lift and for a tie down a line from stern cleat to stern cleat with a couple of wraps around the tiller. This worked moderately well, but surely not the final solution. Maybe you could explain your bungee and jam cleat system? The reefing lines seem to be all there and I should work out a procedure before I need to reef. The sculling oar is mostly for fun. I'm surprised that you say I can't row an M15. I had planned to install oar locks, again because I like to row. I had a 26', 6000#, full keel boat that I rowed with 10' oars. Now that was difficult, but I thought the M15 would row nicely. Thanks, Rick Langer M15 #337 Hudson River _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats This message was scanned for viruses!!