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Honda 2hp
by Jon Barber 03 Apr '21

03 Apr '21

Why do you have a 75# outboard on a Monty 17? My 2 hp pushes my boat easily at 4kts, 1/2 throttle. Its plenty of motor. It weighs 27# and keeps the aft of the boat light and out or the water. The motor stays in the garage till I leave on a trip. When leaving I clamp it to the transom where it stays for the duration. To tow, I rotate the motor to the"reverse" position so it can't move up. I launch many times in a season and not having to deal with the motor each time saves me a lot of trouble. I also changed to the Rudder Craft rudder with the extendable Mast support for the same reason. When I arrive at the marina the rudder is in place and I am also ready to raise my mast. Lately I have been rigging and unrigging after I launch. I find it safer to do so when the deck is not so high from the parking lot. I also like no fuel tank in the cockpit. Nothing underfoot. On a sail in the delta there was much water hyacinth tangling up on motors. Because my motor is mounted directly to to transom, the prop is closer and within reach to clear of obstructions. Keep it simple! Jon Barber Monty 17 Ol'44

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outboard motor on transom
by Peter Zimowsky 03 Apr '21

03 Apr '21

HI: I probably put this under the wrong subject line. Anyway, Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom all the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a week). However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. Is that unwise? The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat trailer and keep taking it on and off. Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It seems to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor. Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"

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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 218, Issue 3
by Jon Barber 03 Apr '21

03 Apr '21

Motor mounts are an eyesore! Give me the notch and a 2 hp any day. On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 11:54 AM <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: outboard motor on transom (John Schinnerer) > 2. Re: outboard motor on transom (Charles Adams) > 3. Re: outboard motor on transom (Steve Trapp) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 18:50:31 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: outboard motor on transom > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <218218e3-a18e-5f1f-0f6c-833461f3292a(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Nice...I carry my motor in my vehicle, so far, but if I were wanting an > alternative I would do something like this, or what someone else posted, > to have a motor mount bracket somewhere near the front of the trailer. > > It's a reasonable location because it has less motion/bouncing in most > cases when towing, compared to the transom. > > cheers, > John > > On 4/2/21 3:14 PM, Edward Cazier wrote: > > When I last painted my M-17(#888 Scooby Doo), I installed a larger and > stouter motor mount on the transom, but am still nervous about damaging the > transom (or the motor mount) by leaving the outboard there when traveling. > Although I’m not yet retired, the pandemic has given me lots of time to > spend on sailboat projects, so I built the motor mount described in the > attached. No more worries about the motor mount or transom or about gas > fumes in the car. > > > > > > > > > >> On Apr 2, 2021, at 3:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. > Does > >> require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of the > boat. > >> I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Haul > >> time. > >> George > >> "We Can Not Control the Wind > >> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the > >>> road > >>> with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in > the > >>> back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested > to > >>> read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. > >>> Steve > >>> M-15- 335 > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats > >>> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM > >>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > >>> Cc: Peter Zimowsky > >>> Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom > >>> > >>> HI: > >>> I probably put this under the wrong subject line. > >>> Anyway, > >>> > >>> Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom > all > >>> the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a > >>> week). > >>> However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the > >>> Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. > >>> Is that unwise? > >>> The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat > >>> trailer > >>> and keep taking it on and off. > >>> Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It > seems > >>> to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of > >>> tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor. > >>> > >>> Pete WinterSky > >>> (Zimowsky) > >>> > >>> San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush > >>> > >>> outdoors writer and photographer > >>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky > >>> <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> > >>> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors > >>> > >>> > >>> "We Can Not Control the Wind > >>> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > >>> > > > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 22:18:42 -0400 > From: Charles Adams <chaada(a)aol.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: outboard motor on transom > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <406BD136-CDD0-49B6-93B0-E54C59382E35(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Good going George! Thank you. At 81 I keep wondering “what the hell” > when I read someone has given up sailing because of age. > > As to motor mounts and removing motor for trailering causes me to reflect > on my trailering and not removing motor to do so. Never crossed my mind > to do so. Not with a M17 but I have trailered thousands of miles, twice > across US, with a motor on a mount. Of course we should do what we think > best but I am lazy and if I had to remove a motor every time I wanted to > sail that would cause me to do more kayaking or bicycling. I gave up big > boats because all the work with them and being in a marina. I chose a > little boat where I just sail and worry about nothing. As a new M17 owner, > because of cabin, this site, which I enjoy, and all the issues I read > causes me to wonder if a M17 is really the trouble free boat I wanted when > I bought it. Owned many boat but have been loyal to my Drascombe Lugger 40 > years because it is so simple. I planned for the same with the M17. > Confess to doubting I’ll get 40 years with it and have no desire to be > concerned with constant problems to fix. > > My motor stays on the mount, all the time, and doubt anyone could convince > me to do other wise. Of course no one has ever accused me of being overly > smart. > > Charlie > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> > wrote:Ross > > > > I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. > Does > > require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of > theread boat. > > I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Hauld > going > > time. > > George > > "We Can Not Control the Wind > > But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > > > > > >> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > >> > >> I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the > >> road > >> with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in > the > >> back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to > >> read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. > >> Steve > >> M-15- 335 > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats > >> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM > >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > >> Cc: Peter Zimowsky > >> Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom > >> > >> HI: > >> I probably put this under the wrong subject line. > >> Anyway, > >> > >> Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom > all > >> the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a > >> week). > >> However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the > >> Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. > >> Is that unwise? > >> The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat > >> trailer > >> and keep taking it on and off. > >> Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It > seems > >> to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of > >> tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor. > >> > >> Pete WinterSky > >> (Zimowsky) > >> > >> San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush > >> > >> outdoors writer and photographer > >> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky > >> <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> > >> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors > >> > >> > >> "We Can Not Control the Wind > >> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > >> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 11:53:07 -0700 > From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: outboard motor on transom > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <FD28EE7F04BD4D499A1545FD4CB14B81@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > Charlie, > I am a youngster at 76, but I may have to give up sailing because of > my > arthritis which may interfere with my hauling the halyard, or trimming the > sheets, or starting the motor to get back to shore when those things > happen > on my M-15. When a person reaches a point that they can no longer do what > needs to be done, it is time to retire from the activity, regardless of > age. > This coming season will tell. > Steve > M-15 335 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Adams via montgomery_boats > Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 7:18 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Cc: Charles Adams > Subject: M_Boats: Re: outboard motor on transom > > Good going George! Thank you. At 81 I keep wondering “what the hell” > when > I read someone has given up sailing because of age. > > As to motor mounts and removing motor for trailering causes me to reflect > on > my trailering and not removing motor to do so. Never crossed my mind to > do > so. Not with a M17 but I have trailered thousands of miles, twice across > US, with a motor on a mount. Of course we should do what we think best > but > I am lazy and if I had to remove a motor every time I wanted to sail that > would cause me to do more kayaking or bicycling. I gave up big boats > because all the work with them and being in a marina. I chose a little > boat > where I just sail and worry about nothing. As a new M17 owner, because of > cabin, this site, which I enjoy, and all the issues I read causes me to > wonder if a M17 is really the trouble free boat I wanted when I bought it. > Owned many boat but have been loyal to my Drascombe Lugger 40 years > because > it is so simple. I planned for the same with the M17. Confess to > doubting > I’ll get 40 years with it and have no desire to be concerned with constant > problems to fix. > > My motor stays on the mount, all the time, and doubt anyone could convince > me to do other wise. Of course no one has ever accused me of being overly > smart. > > Charlie > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> > > wrote:Ross > > > > I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. > Does > > require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of > theread > > boat. > > I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Hauld > > going > > time. > > George > > "We Can Not Control the Wind > > But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > > > > > >> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > >> > >> I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the > >> road > >> with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in > the > >> back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to > >> read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. > >> Steve > >> M-15- 335 > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats > >> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM > >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > >> Cc: Peter Zimowsky > >> Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom > >> > >> HI: > >> I probably put this under the wrong subject line. > >> Anyway, > >> > >> Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom > >> all > >> the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a > >> week). > >> However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the > >> Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. > >> Is that unwise? > >> The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat > >> trailer > >> and keep taking it on and off. > >> Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It > >> seems > >> to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of > >> tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor. > >> > >> Pete WinterSky > >> (Zimowsky) > >> > >> San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush > >> > >> outdoors writer and photographer > >> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky > >> <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> > >> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors > >> > >> > >> "We Can Not Control the Wind > >> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > >> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list -- montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > To unsubscribe send an email to > montgomery_boats-leave(a)mailman.xmission.com > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 218, Issue 3 > ************************************************ >

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Test - trying to send email to Montgomery Group
by Gary Froeschner 27 Mar '21

27 Mar '21

I’m still trying to get this to work. Please ignore this email. Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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Anybody home?
by brad kurlancheek 23 Mar '21

23 Mar '21

Been a few weeks since i've seen a post, thot i'd better check. Thanks

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Why even bother with oars on a Monty 15
by brad kurlancheek 04 Mar '21

04 Mar '21

Some people might wonder, why would you even want to row a Montgomery 15 sailboat. Here's my reasons why, just for the sake of discussion... 1) Granted, a Montomery 15 will sail with just the lightest of winds. But sometimes, you don't even have that. You have nothing. Flat calm glass mirror nothing. We've all been there. And yet, you want to go somewhere. What to do? Easy. Crank up the motor. Okay, but.... 2) Some of us don't want to have a motor on our boat. They're loud. You need to have gasoline in them or near them. They push the transom down into the water, adding weight and drag. Motoring is not sailing. Anyone can motor. They're automated propulsion requiring very little challenge or thought. Sometimes, they're kind of like cheating. On the other hand, I do agree, sometimes there's nothing better than fossil fuel powered automation and power to get you from A to B! For sure. 3) I need exercise when living on a boat for four, five, six days, sometimes more. Sailing gives me some exercise, but not as much as I seem to need, and yoga - well I don't have a clue how to do it, yet. Rowing a boat for 30 to 60 minutes gives me that aerobic time I seem to need in order to maintain some bare semblance of sanity. Else I get cranky and moody, etc. I don't happily and cheerily wave to the rude motorboaters. Instead I yell naughty 4 ltr words to their so called skippers that they can't hear as they boom by, their obnoxious wake knocking my soon-to-be-dinner off its little burner stand. But if beforehand, I've rowed for a good while, instead I calmly say, "Oh what a pretty superglam showboat you have. I realize it takes zero brains to operate, and I know it cost you 80 G's, but it's so boss looking! No, it's no problem at all that you're doing 40 mph so close to my tiny little sailboat. It's a blast almost getting capsized by your wake. Have fun!" 4) Oars and rowing are a great Plan B, for when the motor goes T-up. It just seems like good seamanship to have them on board when in a small sailboat. It's not like we're trying to row a 20 or 30 something foot boat here. The Monty's only 15'! It should therefore be rowable, imho....w/oars and oarlocks and sockets practically standard equipment. Cheers, - Brad

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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 217, Issue 5
by Cap Keith 02 Mar '21

02 Mar '21

Keith, Received the information, thanks! Keith K > On Mar 2, 2021, at 9:11 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Test message to Montgomery Sailboat List Server Members > (Lawrence Winiarski) > 2. Re: Oar Length for an M15 (Lawrence Winiarski) > 3. Re: Test message to Montgomery Sailboat List Server Members > (Glenn Anderson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 00:52:24 +0000 (UTC) > From: Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiarski(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: Test message to Montgomery Sailboat List Server > Members > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <1050079019.1049408.1614732744670(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Got it. Thanks. > > > > On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 4:50:51 PM PST, Keith R. Martin <keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > A couple of days ago I sent a message (see below) out on the list to let > folks know that the xmission list server that supports our list was being > upgraded... > > With the exception of the archives, that work is now complete... > > Could I ask members to respond back to this thread so that I can confirm > that list messages are indeed being received by you folks.... > > Many thanks.... > > Best Regards & Fair Winds > > Keith > *Keith R. Martin* > > *Vancouver/Burnaby B.C.* > > *Serenity M17, #353* > > *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msogphotosite.com%2FScripts%2FBoats%2Fboatsdetail.php%3Fid%3D105&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb7c2fd7274c44f6423cc08d8dde9a329%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637503342823837472%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=sBWBrtj1imV54R4aNTeFB3zB2xpOgmMGGAHq9RU8UUg%3D&reserved=0 > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msogpho…>* > *Admin: Montgomery_boats List Server* > > ----------------- > > Hello Folks, > > This is a quick note to let our Monty community know that after a very long > wait, I have just received notice from xmission.com that the email list > server software that has powered our *montgomery_boats* list since Keith > Diehl first set it up is now in the process of being upgraded. Things might > be a bit bumpy for a few days or so please be patient. The new software > also holds the promise of restoring a functioning searchable archive... > Below is a copy of the message I received from xmission today... > > > > > > *"The Mailman software at XMission for https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailman.xm… > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailman.xm…> has seen its most significant upgrade in 20 > years. All of the old lists, with their subscribers, and hopefully their > subscriber settings (moderated, etc) have been imported into the new > software. The last 20 years of Mailman archives are being slowly imported > into a new archiver, "Hyperkitty" which is significantly cleaner, smarter, > and all-around better than the old archiver, "Lurker". There may be a > chance that the archives which preceded the 2001 installation of Mailman > may be imported into their respective lists as well."* > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 01:06:17 +0000 (UTC) > From: Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiarski(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: Oar Length for an M15 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Cc: Charles Adams <chaada(a)aol.com> > Message-ID: <1953173631.1052776.1614733577110(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > A friend of mine tried putting a sculling oar on his M15. Neither of us at the time new much about sculling, but nonetheless the results were not very impressive. We were not able to proceed very well agains a light current or moderate breeze. YMMV. The regular oars though are pretty practical. I could see going several miles (which I did on the salish 100, although it is a little tiring). sculling didn't seem like a very practical solution. The technique though is good to learn just for close quarter maneuvering and just do it by hand without using the oarlock. > > > > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 2:16:19 PM PST, Charles Adams via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > Pinterest has some excellent example of sculling oars. > > Charlie > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 28, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Rimantas Aukstuolis <raukstuolis1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am fooling around with the concept of a sculling oar rigged on to my M-15 >> outboard bracket. My concern is what to do with massive oars when sailing. >> I have a canoe paddle, on to which I have attached, with adjustable metal >> straps, an equal length piece of oak handrail (as used on stairs.). I >> simply loosen the straps and pull out the handrail and I have about an 8' >> oar. I have yet to use it. This summer, I'll report on how it works. >> Rimas "Ray" Aukstuolis >> >>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 3:27 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: >>> >>> I would like to install oar locks on my M-15. Where do you buy them, and >>> because I am a disaster at DYI, where would I get them installed in the >>> Puget Sound area? >>> Steve >>> M-15 # 335 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: brad kurlancheek >>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 9:52 AM >>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >>> Subject: M_Boats: Oar Length for an M15 >>> >>> Hello all. Wondering if anyone's successfully >>> used oars on their Monty 15. I have oarlocks installed >>> on the coaming, flush with the coaming deck. I put a wood >>> bench across the seats near the companionway and sit on it. >>> I tried using 8 1/2' oars, and it was a no-go. Too short. >>> Blades barely brushed the surface of the water. Am wondering >>> if anyone's tried 9 1/2' oars with any success on their M15. >>> Or 10 1/2'. The oar length calculators suggest something closer >>> to 10 than 9. But if I can get away with 9 1/2', I will. Thank you. >>> > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 18:10:44 -0800 > From: Glenn Anderson <ganderson1923(a)gmail.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: Test message to Montgomery Sailboat List Server > Members > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <178F40A6-F99F-40FC-ADBD-EAC1085DB8F7(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Sure, got it—and thanks. Glenn Anderson > >> On Mar 2, 2021, at 16:52, Lawrence Winiarski via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: >> >> Got it. Thanks. >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 4:50:51 PM PST, Keith R. Martin <keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> A couple of days ago I sent a message (see below) out on the list to let >> folks know that the xmission list server that supports our list was being >> upgraded... >> >> With the exception of the archives, that work is now complete... >> >> Could I ask members to respond back to this thread so that I can confirm >> that list messages are indeed being received by you folks.... >> >> Many thanks.... >> >> Best Regards & Fair Winds >> >> Keith >> *Keith R. Martin* >> >> *Vancouver/Burnaby B.C.* >> >> *Serenity M17, #353* >> >> *https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msogphotosite.com%2FScripts%2FBoats%2Fboatsdetail.php%3Fid%3D105&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb7c2fd7274c44f6423cc08d8dde9a329%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637503342823847466%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=5NN3YSvOQ7RIVRkPoDLgCI3nQXFHlE1mwCCN9npdRTs%3D&reserved=0 >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msogpho…>* >> *Admin: Montgomery_boats List Server* >> >> ----------------- >> >> Hello Folks, >> >> This is a quick note to let our Monty community know that after a very long >> wait, I have just received notice from xmission.com that the email list >> server software that has powered our *montgomery_boats* list since Keith >> Diehl first set it up is now in the process of being upgraded. Things might >> be a bit bumpy for a few days or so please be patient. The new software >> also holds the promise of restoring a functioning searchable archive... >> Below is a copy of the message I received from xmission today... >> >> >> >> >> >> *"The Mailman software at XMission for https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailman.xm… >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailman.xm…> has seen its most significant upgrade in 20 >> years. All of the old lists, with their subscribers, and hopefully their >> subscriber settings (moderated, etc) have been imported into the new >> software. The last 20 years of Mailman archives are being slowly imported >> into a new archiver, "Hyperkitty" which is significantly cleaner, smarter, >> and all-around better than the old archiver, "Lurker". There may be a >> chance that the archives which preceded the 2001 installation of Mailman >> may be imported into their respective lists as well."* >> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list -- montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > To unsubscribe send an email to montgomery_boats-leave(a)mailman.xmission.com > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 217, Issue 5 > ************************************************

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Test message to Montgomery Sailboat List Server Members
by Keith R. Martin 02 Mar '21

02 Mar '21

Hi folks, A couple of days ago I sent a message (see below) out on the list to let folks know that the xmission list server that supports our list was being upgraded... With the exception of the archives, that work is now complete... Could I ask members to respond back to this thread so that I can confirm that list messages are indeed being received by you folks.... Many thanks.... Best Regards & Fair Winds Keith *Keith R. Martin* *Vancouver/Burnaby B.C.* *Serenity M17, #353* *http://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Boats/boatsdetail.php?id=105 <http://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Boats/boatsdetail.php?id=105>* *Admin: Montgomery_boats List Server* ----------------- Hello Folks, This is a quick note to let our Monty community know that after a very long wait, I have just received notice from xmission.com that the email list server software that has powered our *montgomery_boats* list since Keith Diehl first set it up is now in the process of being upgraded. Things might be a bit bumpy for a few days or so please be patient. The new software also holds the promise of restoring a functioning searchable archive... Below is a copy of the message I received from xmission today... *"The Mailman software at XMission for https://mailman.xmission.com <https://mailman.xmission.com> has seen its most significant upgrade in 20 years. All of the old lists, with their subscribers, and hopefully their subscriber settings (moderated, etc) have been imported into the new software. The last 20 years of Mailman archives are being slowly imported into a new archiver, "Hyperkitty" which is significantly cleaner, smarter, and all-around better than the old archiver, "Lurker". There may be a chance that the archives which preceded the 2001 installation of Mailman may be imported into their respective lists as well."*

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Oar Length for an M15
by brad kurlancheek 02 Mar '21

02 Mar '21

Hello all. Wondering if anyone's successfully used oars on their Monty 15. I have oarlocks installed on the coaming, flush with the coaming deck. I put a wood bench across the seats near the companionway and sit on it. I tried using 8 1/2' oars, and it was a no-go. Too short. Blades barely brushed the surface of the water. Am wondering if anyone's tried 9 1/2' oars with any success on their M15. Or 10 1/2'. The oar length calculators suggest something closer to 10 than 9. But if I can get away with 9 1/2', I will. Thank you.

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Re: oar length
by Bruce Chmieleski 02 Mar '21

02 Mar '21

Fyi on sizing oars. They also do great work. I have a pair of their wide blade spoons for my Adirondack Guide Boat. They also make sculling oars up to 21 feet! https://www.shawandtenney.com/how-size-your-oars Bruce Sent by mental telepathy!

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