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RE Greetings from a new M17 owner
by Klaas 05 Sep '13

05 Sep '13

Hi Keith glad to hear that there is another Monty owner in the Vancouver area . As near as I can figure there must be around ten to fifteen Monty 15-17 in the area . I'm in Steveston with a 15 # 321 that I've been working on and a mile down the road there is an other 15 sitting in a boat yard . So don't feel lonely we are out here . where are you planing to sail her KLaas From: Keith R. Martin <keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: M_Boats: Greetings from a new M17 owner Hello folks, My name is Keith Martin,? I live in Burnaby, BC, Canada, ( a suburb of Vancouver). After a year long search I am thrilled to have just completed purchase and brought home to Canada my dream boat a 1982 M17,? hull # 353,? "Serenity". I am an electronics engineer by profession and have been a sailing enthusiast for a good part of my life. I served the last 10 years of a 25 year tenure with Scouts Canada running a Sea Scout Troop with a fleet ranging from 8 ft sabots up to a? 24 ft fixed keel sloop. Having "done my time" with the Troop, I had been looking over the past year for an affordable, but CAPABLE boat for personal use to do some solo coastal cruising here in BC ( my wife Liz is a little like a cat, she likes to drink water, not so crazy about riding on it so I am going to be on my own a good bit of the time). After months of research, a lot of it available thanks to this strong Monty user community I set my sights on an M17. After 8 months of looking I found "Serenity". A little bit about "Serenity"... From what I gather she has spent a good part of her life in Arizona, sailing fresh water, with a few trips to the Sea of Cortez. The owners that I purchased her from have been sailing her on Lake Pleasant AZ just north of Phoenix. The owners previous to them were apparently located in Tuscon AZ. She is the 4 berth version and appears to be in nearly stock configuration with no modifications. I am looking forward to getting her out in the chuck for a couple of shakedown day sails in the near future. That's all for now, I just wanted to introduce myself and to say thank you to this group of active owners who have provided so much information online, it really made a huge impact on my due diligence and selection process... Keith M17-353, Serenity -- Keith R. Martin, P.Eng. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon

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New owners....
by Lpcorin 05 Sep '13

05 Sep '13

Hi Keith, Welcome to the group. I'm almost a neighbor, living on Whidbey Island, WA. Lenny, #302, Orli Sent from my iPad

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Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous opportunities
by Steve Lindeman 02 Sep '13

02 Sep '13

I have read some older posts about Chesapeake Bay Montgomery owner get togethers. Do these events still exist? As a new M15 owner, I am interested in sailing with other local Montgomery sailors. I am able to travel to any location around the bay. I would also be willing to organize an event next year if others are interested. Thanks, Steve Lindeman 2009 M15 Sadie Lee

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Re: M_Boats: Sailing in Yellowstone
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 30 Aug '13

30 Aug '13

At somewhere around 1970 my family took another trip to Yellowstone Park - this time we brought the Super Satellite from Phoenix. Had a great day of sailing in BIG breeze and very cold water. A beautiful place to sail - Grant Village was where we launched from - (I think?) If you are traveling nearby or considering it for a destination - I would heartily recommend the Lake - do some fishing while you are there too! GO In a message dated 8/30/2013 5:52:45 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, davids(a)mmfcpa.com writes: My name is David Schuster, have a M17, and live in Lander, WY. We are about a 3 hour drive to Jackson Lake and have sailed the lake several time. Yellowstone lake is a Great Lake to sail and we sail it more often then Jackson Lake. Main reason being at Yellowstone you don't have to put up with all the kid from Jackson Hole who, using their daddy's speed boat to party on the lake. At times it can get annoying. Yellowstone is quite and no one on it but a few kayaks. One of the best places to sail. Put in at a Grant Village, great place. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Doug Vogel <shadowmt(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > Hi David, > > I live in Jackson Hole, and sail my M17 on Jackson Lake. It is a beautiful place to sail. The lake is down to about 25% .capacity , but is still a wonderful but challenging lake. The wind is fairly irregular with occasional afternoon thunderstorms. Things can get exciting then. > There is no sailing on Jenny Lake. > Feel free to call me if you get here. I'll be in California myself till Sept 13. > > > Doug Vogel > 307-730-2971 >

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Montgomery 15 Rigging Again
by David Grah 30 Aug '13

30 Aug '13

After almost a two month wait thinking about it and almost having a sailing trip to Yellowstone cut short due to a fraying shroud, I am about to order new rigging from Morrison Marine in Rancho Cordova. As far as I know, my Montgomery 15 is rigged okay. So I planned on getting the new rigging essentially just like the old. Before I do though, I thought I would check with the group again to see if there is anything I am missing. I took the old rigging off the boat then, for each piece, put one end over a nail, pulled on the cable to put it under some tension, made a mark where the other end fell, and then measured it with a tape. The measurements I got were forestay 185 11/16 inches, port shroud 185 13/16 inches, and starboard shroud 185 7/8 inches. The bottom ends of each have a stainless fitting and the tops have nicopress-type swagings with the cable wrapped around what I would call a thimble. The shrouds have two swagings at the top but the forestay only has one. These are the things I am wondering if the group has any comments about: 1. The three pieces are all of slightly different lengths but I don't think that is intentional. Also, when attaching the forestay when putting up the mast, as well as when sailing around, I don't get the impression tension or exact lengths are extremely critical. I plan on asking for all three pieces to be made the same length, 185 3/4 inches in my case. 2. I don't understand why the forestay would be swaged differently from the shrouds. Even though the forestay attaches inside the mast, at least one swaging will need to fit through the slot (and does) so two should fit too. It seems more sensible for the three to be assembled the same way. Thoughts on these or anything else? Thanks, as always, for the help and wisdom. David Grah Montgomery 15 Bishop California

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M-17 Outhaul Cleat
by Rich Makela 30 Aug '13

30 Aug '13

I purchased a loose-footed main for my M-17 in late 2010. I also reconfigured the outhaul to enable easy adjustment while under way, especially upwind. I use a plastic clam cleat mounted on the boom to secure the outhaul. The clam cleat doesn't always hold, and I'm looking for a better solution. Has anybody used a cam cleat with a fairlead on an M-17 outhaul? Given the curvature of the boom, how can it be mounted on the boom? Rich Makela M-17 #233 - Harmony

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Sailing Jenny (actually Jackson) Lake, Grand Tetons
by David Grah 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

Great photo, Don. Just so no one gets confused, I believe that sailboats are not allowed on Jenny Lake in Grand Teton National Park but, as we were lucky enough to experience last week, they are allowed on Jackson Lake in the park. Your photo appears to be close to where we anchored on Jackson Lake. David Grah Montgomery 15 Bishop California Message: 8 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:47:42 -0700 From: Don <sailmonty15(a)gmail.com> To: Montgomery List <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Sailing Jenny Lake, Grand Tetons Message-ID: <521F893E.6090709(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Thought I would share this picture taken in June of this year when we visited Grand Tetons NP. If you like great scenery, this is a great destination. Don Haas M15-248

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Sailing Jenny Lake, Grand Tetons
by Don 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

Thought I would share this picture taken in June of this year when we visited Grand Tetons NP. If you like great scenery, this is a great destination. Don Haas M15-248

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Gin pole for my Montgomery 17
by Lpcorin 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

Thanks for the advice. What I ended up doing was attaching lines about half way up the gin pole and running those lines to the toe rail. That kept the gin pole centered which then kept the mast centered. If it starts to lean to one side or the other a gentle pull on the appropriate shroud brings the mast back into alignment. Lenny #302, Orli Sent from my iPad

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M17s in south SF Bay area?
by John Schinnerer 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

Hi all, Any M17 owners in the south San Francisco Bay area? I will be in Saratoga for a couple days (Fri-Sat) this weekend and would like to get a look at an M17, now that I've had a look and even a sail on Daniel's M15. cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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