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M15 participant in R2AK?
by Michael Witkin 09 Jun '23

09 Jun '23

I recently purchased an M15 that seller said was in an early R2AK race.The white boat with blue stripe has been fitted with a port-side oarlock and came with a long two-part oar. Anyone know more about this vessel?Appreciate your help. Thanks,Mike Witkin

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M-15 for sale
by Thomas Harris 08 Jun '23

08 Jun '23

1981 M-15 for sale $7,000. I bought and outfitted her for my retirement and then failed to retire. Has been stored indoors and unused since. Brand new trailer, outboard, sails, tiller and rudder. Photos available. I am in Amarillo, TX. (806) 922-6533/tom(a)westexasswimcoaching.com

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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 10
by John Taussig 07 Jun '23

07 Jun '23

We did the just the Proving Grounds last year in fierce weather on Sick Chicken #375. Didn’t complete it but had a real challenge ! Planned to do it this year but 50th College Reunion in Maine at the same time. We used a couple of long sculling oars and just coiled a rubberized wire around each winch to act as oarlocks. Stand up rowing with the middle hatch door inserted so you didn’t fall into the cabin. Worked well enough and didn’t have to drill any holes etc. Looking at the wind this year…quite a change from what we took on last year. Is Alaska in the cards? I am getting pretty old! John Sick Chicken. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 11:26:44 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 10 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: R2AK (casioqv(a)usermail.com) 2. Re: R2AK (Rimantas Aukstuolis) 3. Re: human power, oars, paddles (John Schinnerer) 4. Re: human power, oars, paddles (casioqv(a)usermail.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:14:06 -0700 (PDT) From: casioqv(a)usermail.com Subject: M_Boats: Re: R2AK To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Cc: scoobscobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Message-ID: <1850210147.3029753.1686154446524.JavaMail.zimbra(a)usermail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I agree, I don't think it's necessary to have a full rowing station on an M boat for R2AK. Special sails for extreme light winds, a sculling or SUP oar, and some kind of dinghy that can tow would all be fine IMO. A full batten main with a preventer and a nylon 'windseeker' jib will ghost along an M boat at about rowing speeds even when there seems to be zero wind. There is never really zero wind if the sun is up and there is a shoreline nearby, there is always a thermal heating gradient causing light winds near the shoreline. I once rowed my M15 several miles with a canoe oar, sitting high up on a pile of PFDs and my feet down in the cockpit locker, and it was fine, I felt I could cover distance that way if absolutely necessary. Sincerely, Tyler Sage 17 #0 Goshawk ----- Original Message ----- From: tdelacy(a)wavecable.com To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>, "scoobscobie" <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:48:41 PM Subject: M_Boats: Re: R2AK I concur with Dave. After completing the 70/48 twice in my 17 foot kayak, my bucket list now includes completing stage 1 of the R2AK, Port Townsend to Victoria in my other 17 foot boat. However, after all the refurbishment effort, I am not putting oars on my M17. If Lynn and Larry Pardey could figure out how to push Seraffyn with a sculling oar, maybe I could figure out how to push my M17 with a similar device. Could always use the dingy to pull the boat into Victoria harbor. The advantage of only doing stage 1, if the weather is terrible, I hang out Siren's pub in Port Townsend drink a beer and go home, if the wind fails and I don't arrive in Victoria on time, nothing lost. When the wind picks up after the allowed time has past, return to Port Townsend and Siren's still seems like a good fall back. The best part about the adventure races is the comradery (sp?). There are those looking to win and those looking for the adventure. I think it was the Noddy Scamp crew that captured the spirit of the adventure that I want to emulate. Neat people that chatted with everybody dockside when they participated in R2AK's stage 1 a couple of years back. Tim de Lacy M17 hull #333 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:22:35 -0400 From: Rimantas Aukstuolis <raukstuolis1(a)gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: R2AK To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Cc: scoobscobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Message-ID: <CAMWQgZQ4w19x=FaGBB3TzsV2j0OGP8eKsOR3suRLpfRFFqbODg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" To all my Monty colleagues "Festina Lente"! Make haste, slowly, the art of sailing. There is also an aesthetic appeal which our Monty's satisfy. Ultra modern sailing machines are interesting engineering exercises but usually they are ugly. Rimas Aukstuolis M-15 Lake Erie On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 12:14 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: > I agree, I don't think it's necessary to have a full rowing station on an > M boat for R2AK. Special sails for extreme light winds, a sculling or SUP > oar, and some kind of dinghy that can tow would all be fine IMO. A full > batten main with a preventer and a nylon 'windseeker' jib will ghost along > an M boat at about rowing speeds even when there seems to be zero wind. > There is never really zero wind if the sun is up and there is a shoreline > nearby, there is always a thermal heating gradient causing light winds near > the shoreline. > > I once rowed my M15 several miles with a canoe oar, sitting high up on a > pile of PFDs and my feet down in the cockpit locker, and it was fine, I > felt I could cover distance that way if absolutely necessary. > > Sincerely, > Tyler > Sage 17 #0 Goshawk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: tdelacy(a)wavecable.com > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>, "scoobscobie" < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:48:41 PM > Subject: M_Boats: Re: R2AK > > I concur with Dave. > > After completing the 70/48 twice in my 17 foot kayak, my bucket list now > includes completing stage 1 of the R2AK, Port Townsend to Victoria in my > other 17 foot boat. > > However, after all the refurbishment effort, I am not putting oars on my > M17. If Lynn and Larry Pardey could figure out how to push Seraffyn with a > sculling oar, maybe I could figure out how to push my M17 with a similar > device. Could always use the dingy to pull the boat into Victoria harbor. > The advantage of only doing stage 1, if the weather is terrible, I hang out > Siren's pub in Port Townsend drink a beer and go home, if the wind fails > and I don't arrive in Victoria on time, nothing lost. When the wind picks > up after the allowed time has past, return to Port Townsend and Siren's > still seems like a good fall back. > > The best part about the adventure races is the comradery (sp?). There are > those looking to win and those looking for the adventure. I think it was > the Noddy Scamp crew that captured the spirit of the adventure that I want > to emulate. Neat people that chatted with everybody dockside when they > participated in R2AK's stage 1 a couple of years back. > > > > Tim de Lacy > M17 hull #333 > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 10:25:20 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> Subject: M_Boats: Re: human power, oars, paddles To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <401bc04a-1c55-9a58-7ec9-2ee8419f9ec9(a)eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed The guy who set up a full outrigger rowing rig on an M17 for an early R2AK wrote somewhere that about 2 mph was max speed they could maintain for long distances. I have used a SUP paddle to move my M17 short distances in glassy conditions (like into a marina slip). It is a much heaver boat than an M15 (or a SCAMP, which I have also briefly moved using a SUP paddle) so I would not plan to try any distance that way. I have set up a sculling option on my M17, using the Scullmatix device (https://duckworks.com/scullmatix/) with oarlock on starboard portion of transom, but so far have only been able to try it with an oar that is at least several feet too short. I was able to move the boat around a bit in glassy conditions, despite the awkward angle and low effectiveness with the too-short oar. A long enough oar would clearly work better, and, then there's the issue of stowing a long enough oar on a small boat. It would need to be a two-piece oar to stow inside anywhere (the R2AK M17 stowed their long sculling oars outboard of the toe rails when sailing IIRC). cheers, John On 6/7/23 09:14, casioqv(a)usermail.com wrote: > I agree, I don't think it's necessary to have a full rowing station on an M boat for R2AK. Special sails for extreme light winds, a sculling or SUP oar, and some kind of dinghy that can tow would all be fine IMO. A full batten main with a preventer and a nylon 'windseeker' jib will ghost along an M boat at about rowing speeds even when there seems to be zero wind. There is never really zero wind if the sun is up and there is a shoreline nearby, there is always a thermal heating gradient causing light winds near the shoreline. > > I once rowed my M15 several miles with a canoe oar, sitting high up on a pile of PFDs and my feet down in the cockpit locker, and it was fine, I felt I could cover distance that way if absolutely necessary. > > Sincerely, > Tyler > Sage 17 #0 Goshawk -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 11:25:51 -0700 (PDT) From: casioqv(a)usermail.com Subject: M_Boats: Re: human power, oars, paddles To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <1644744352.3072301.1686162351720.JavaMail.zimbra(a)usermail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I wonder if some kind of telescoping paddle could work? Maybe a SUP paddle or an "emergency telescoping paddle." There's also multi-piece kayak paddles that have many short sections and can be as long or short as you want... plus they have removable blades so you could use different blade styles. Sincerely, Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Cc: "john" <john(a)eco-living.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 10:25:20 AM Subject: M_Boats: Re: human power, oars, paddles The guy who set up a full outrigger rowing rig on an M17 for an early R2AK wrote somewhere that about 2 mph was max speed they could maintain for long distances. I have used a SUP paddle to move my M17 short distances in glassy conditions (like into a marina slip). It is a much heaver boat than an M15 (or a SCAMP, which I have also briefly moved using a SUP paddle) so I would not plan to try any distance that way. I have set up a sculling option on my M17, using the Scullmatix device (https://duckworks.com/scullmatix/) with oarlock on starboard portion of transom, but so far have only been able to try it with an oar that is at least several feet too short. I was able to move the boat around a bit in glassy conditions, despite the awkward angle and low effectiveness with the too-short oar. A long enough oar would clearly work better, and, then there's the issue of stowing a long enough oar on a small boat. It would need to be a two-piece oar to stow inside anywhere (the R2AK M17 stowed their long sculling oars outboard of the toe rails when sailing IIRC). cheers, John On 6/7/23 09:14, casioqv(a)usermail.com wrote: > I agree, I don't think it's necessary to have a full rowing station on an M boat for R2AK. Special sails for extreme light winds, a sculling or SUP oar, and some kind of dinghy that can tow would all be fine IMO. A full batten main with a preventer and a nylon 'windseeker' jib will ghost along an M boat at about rowing speeds even when there seems to be zero wind. There is never really zero wind if the sun is up and there is a shoreline nearby, there is always a thermal heating gradient causing light winds near the shoreline. > > I once rowed my M15 several miles with a canoe oar, sitting high up on a pile of PFDs and my feet down in the cockpit locker, and it was fine, I felt I could cover distance that way if absolutely necessary. > > Sincerely, > Tyler > Sage 17 #0 Goshawk -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list -- montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To unsubscribe send an email to montgomery_boats-leave(a)mailman.xmission.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 10 *************************************************

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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 4
by Dr Vince Facchiano 06 Jun '23

06 Jun '23

responding to below re winch parts - The boat is located in Pequot Lakes, MN Thx Vincent Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 11:10:11 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M17 winch replacement parts To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAGjBOA6P-ZKsO+gU29ScR-cd9riMRZL8c+DMRdCkd_BKWRKo=w(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Where are you located Vincent? :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com Vincent Facchiano OD FAAO please text only - 815-218-7777Independent Primary Eye Care Optometrist www.aacoeyes.org/for-great-vision affiliated for 40 years with Lenscrafters & Pearle Vision www.RentVIP.US Important Confidentiality Notice: This message and any attachments are confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. 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And if you read this far, may God Bless you and the fine service you provide the world. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Tue, Jun 6, 2023 1:21 pm Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 4 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 3 (VINCENT FACCHIANO) 2. Re: M17 winch replacement parts (Dave Scobie) 3. Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 3 (casioqv(a)usermail.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 12:40:27 -0500 From: VINCENT FACCHIANO <vfacch2854(a)aol.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 3 To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <64592342-8CA5-4768-BABD-C1CC675D5E1A(a)aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Anyone know where I can purchase Lewmar #6 stainless steel winch parts and not have to wait two months or more - the center stem broke on my 2008 Montgomery 17 Blue Jay - open to replacement options , pre owned parts etc Thanks in advance for your advice, Vincent Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2023, at 12:14 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 (David Grah) > 2. Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 (Dave Scobie) > 3. R2AK (Jim Sadler) > 4. Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 (jerry montgomery) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 02:32:55 +0000 (UTC) > From: David Grah <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 > To: For and About Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <726052602.200463.1686018775715(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > I’d like to replace the main sail halyard on my Montgomery 15. The cable has some frays and the attached line is a bit worn. Also, a few years ago I replaced the mast due to damage when a pickup rear ended the boat, and I have had occasional issues with the current halyard jamming at the mast head (which may be related to the new masthead confirmation). > > > > > To address these issues, I think I would like to replace the halyard with some sort of no- or low-stretch line, but am not familiar with line types available and don’t really even know what diameter would be appropriate and how to best rig the sail end of the line. > > > > > I bet some on this list have been through this process and I’d be very interested to hear what worked and didn’t from those. And I would also be interested for any suggestions on how to accomplish this project and what materials to use and where to source them from those that maybe haven’t done it but have good thoughts on the topic. > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > > > David Grah > > Bishop California > Montgomery 15 - Sky > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 06:41:02 -0700 > From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: > <CAGjBOA5qUNRLTk5exN=SXLyKg5-xhk3i6MVOSpFCii4Q9PG9ug(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > David: > > Get 1/4" low-stretch double-braid line. Lots of options and you basically > get what you pay for. Duckworks, Defender, Fisheries, local chandelier, or > ... West Marine. > > There is no reason to use rope-to-wire halyards these days. That set-up is > what was done before low-stretch line became available. > > Confirm the condition of the masthead sheeves before running the new line. > Make sure the wire hasn't damaged anything = created burs that will rip up > your new halyard. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU > :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com > > >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2023, 19:33 David Grah via montgomery_boats < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: >> >> >> I’d like to replace the main sail halyard on my Montgomery 15. The cable >> has some frays and the attached line is a bit worn. Also, a few years ago I >> replaced the mast due to damage when a pickup rear ended the boat, and I >> have had occasional issues with the current halyard jamming at the mast >> head (which may be related to the new masthead confirmation). >> >> >> >> >> To address these issues, I think I would like to replace the halyard with >> some sort of no- or low-stretch line, but am not familiar with line types >> available and don’t really even know what diameter would be appropriate and >> how to best rig the sail end of the line. >> >> >> >> >> I bet some on this list have been through this process and I’d be very >> interested to hear what worked and didn’t from those. And I would also be >> interested for any suggestions on how to accomplish this project and what >> materials to use and where to source them from those that maybe haven’t >> done it but have good thoughts on the topic. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David Grah >> >> Bishop California >> Montgomery 15 - Sky >> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 15:48:44 +0000 > From: Jim Sadler <jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> > Subject: M_Boats: R2AK > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <BY5PR13MB3859A4B727F691BE5BA5C110D552A(a)BY5PR13MB3859.nam > prd13.prod.outlook.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Are any Montgomery boats in the race to Alaska? > > Capt Jim > SV Pelican > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 17:13:56 +0000 > From: jerry montgomery <jmbn1(a)outlook.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <MN0PR84MB3119822D0AFC3053DFDF999BE652A(a)MN0PR84MB3119.NAM > PRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > God advice! > ________________________________ > From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 6:41 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 > > David: > > Get 1/4" low-stretch double-braid line. Lots of options and you basically > get what you pay for. Duckworks, Defender, Fisheries, local chandelier, or > ... West Marine. > > There is no reason to use rope-to-wire halyards these days. That set-up is > what was done before low-stretch line became available. > > Confirm the condition of the masthead sheeves before running the new line. > Make sure the wire hasn't damaged anything = created burs that will rip up > your new halyard. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU > :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com > > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023, 19:33 David Grah via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> >> I’d like to replace the main sail halyard on my Montgomery 15. The cable >> has some frays and the attached line is a bit worn. Also, a few years ago I >> replaced the mast due to damage when a pickup rear ended the boat, and I >> have had occasional issues with the current halyard jamming at the mast >> head (which may be related to the new masthead confirmation). >> >> >> >> >> To address these issues, I think I would like to replace the halyard with >> some sort of no- or low-stretch line, but am not familiar with line types >> available and don’t really even know what diameter would be appropriate and >> how to best rig the sail end of the line. >> >> >> >> >> I bet some on this list have been through this process and I’d be very >> interested to hear what worked and didn’t from those. And I would also be >> interested for any suggestions on how to accomplish this project and what >> materials to use and where to source them from those that maybe haven’t >> done it but have good thoughts on the topic. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David Grah >> >> Bishop California >> Montgomery 15 - Sky >> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list -- montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > To unsubscribe send an email to montgomery_boats-leave(a)mailman.xmission.com > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 3 > ************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 11:10:11 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M17 winch replacement parts To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CAGjBOA6P-ZKsO+gU29ScR-cd9riMRZL8c+DMRdCkd_BKWRKo=w(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Where are you located Vincent? :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com On Tue, Jun 6, 2023, 10:41 VINCENT FACCHIANO via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Anyone know where I can purchase Lewmar #6 stainless steel winch parts > and not have to wait two months or more - the center stem broke on my 2008 > Montgomery 17 Blue Jay - open to replacement options , pre owned parts etc > > Thanks in advance for your advice, > > Vincent > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 11:20:39 -0700 (PDT) From: casioqv(a)usermail.com Subject: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 3 To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <1929428325.2754881.1686075639048.JavaMail.zimbra(a)usermail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Vincent, How did the center 'stem' break? On my boat the center bolt threads were stripped... I was able to drill and tap threads for a slightly larger center bolt, and that fixed the winch. Sincerely, Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Cc: "VINCENT FACCHIANO" <vfacch2854(a)aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:40:27 AM Subject: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 3 Anyone know where I can purchase Lewmar #6 stainless steel winch parts and not have to wait two months or more - the center stem broke on my 2008 Montgomery 17 Blue Jay - open to replacement options , pre owned parts etc Thanks in advance for your advice, Vincent ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list -- montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To unsubscribe send an email to montgomery_boats-leave(a)mailman.xmission.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 4 ************************************************

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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 3
by VINCENT FACCHIANO 06 Jun '23

06 Jun '23

Anyone know where I can purchase Lewmar #6 stainless steel winch parts and not have to wait two months or more - the center stem broke on my 2008 Montgomery 17 Blue Jay - open to replacement options , pre owned parts etc Thanks in advance for your advice, Vincent Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2023, at 12:14 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 (David Grah) > 2. Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 (Dave Scobie) > 3. R2AK (Jim Sadler) > 4. Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 (jerry montgomery) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 02:32:55 +0000 (UTC) > From: David Grah <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 > To: For and About Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <726052602.200463.1686018775715(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > I’d like to replace the main sail halyard on my Montgomery 15. The cable has some frays and the attached line is a bit worn. Also, a few years ago I replaced the mast due to damage when a pickup rear ended the boat, and I have had occasional issues with the current halyard jamming at the mast head (which may be related to the new masthead confirmation). > > > > > To address these issues, I think I would like to replace the halyard with some sort of no- or low-stretch line, but am not familiar with line types available and don’t really even know what diameter would be appropriate and how to best rig the sail end of the line. > > > > > I bet some on this list have been through this process and I’d be very interested to hear what worked and didn’t from those. And I would also be interested for any suggestions on how to accomplish this project and what materials to use and where to source them from those that maybe haven’t done it but have good thoughts on the topic. > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > > > > > David Grah > > Bishop California > Montgomery 15 - Sky > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 06:41:02 -0700 > From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: > <CAGjBOA5qUNRLTk5exN=SXLyKg5-xhk3i6MVOSpFCii4Q9PG9ug(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > David: > > Get 1/4" low-stretch double-braid line. Lots of options and you basically > get what you pay for. Duckworks, Defender, Fisheries, local chandelier, or > ... West Marine. > > There is no reason to use rope-to-wire halyards these days. That set-up is > what was done before low-stretch line became available. > > Confirm the condition of the masthead sheeves before running the new line. > Make sure the wire hasn't damaged anything = created burs that will rip up > your new halyard. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU > :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com > > >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2023, 19:33 David Grah via montgomery_boats < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: >> >> >> I’d like to replace the main sail halyard on my Montgomery 15. The cable >> has some frays and the attached line is a bit worn. Also, a few years ago I >> replaced the mast due to damage when a pickup rear ended the boat, and I >> have had occasional issues with the current halyard jamming at the mast >> head (which may be related to the new masthead confirmation). >> >> >> >> >> To address these issues, I think I would like to replace the halyard with >> some sort of no- or low-stretch line, but am not familiar with line types >> available and don’t really even know what diameter would be appropriate and >> how to best rig the sail end of the line. >> >> >> >> >> I bet some on this list have been through this process and I’d be very >> interested to hear what worked and didn’t from those. And I would also be >> interested for any suggestions on how to accomplish this project and what >> materials to use and where to source them from those that maybe haven’t >> done it but have good thoughts on the topic. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David Grah >> >> Bishop California >> Montgomery 15 - Sky >> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 15:48:44 +0000 > From: Jim Sadler <jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> > Subject: M_Boats: R2AK > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <BY5PR13MB3859A4B727F691BE5BA5C110D552A(a)BY5PR13MB3859.nam > prd13.prod.outlook.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Are any Montgomery boats in the race to Alaska? > > Capt Jim > SV Pelican > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 17:13:56 +0000 > From: jerry montgomery <jmbn1(a)outlook.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <MN0PR84MB3119822D0AFC3053DFDF999BE652A(a)MN0PR84MB3119.NAM > PRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > God advice! > ________________________________ > From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 6:41 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15 > > David: > > Get 1/4" low-stretch double-braid line. Lots of options and you basically > get what you pay for. Duckworks, Defender, Fisheries, local chandelier, or > ... West Marine. > > There is no reason to use rope-to-wire halyards these days. That set-up is > what was done before low-stretch line became available. > > Confirm the condition of the masthead sheeves before running the new line. > Make sure the wire hasn't damaged anything = created burs that will rip up > your new halyard. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU > :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com > > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023, 19:33 David Grah via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> >> I’d like to replace the main sail halyard on my Montgomery 15. The cable >> has some frays and the attached line is a bit worn. Also, a few years ago I >> replaced the mast due to damage when a pickup rear ended the boat, and I >> have had occasional issues with the current halyard jamming at the mast >> head (which may be related to the new masthead confirmation). >> >> >> >> >> To address these issues, I think I would like to replace the halyard with >> some sort of no- or low-stretch line, but am not familiar with line types >> available and don’t really even know what diameter would be appropriate and >> how to best rig the sail end of the line. >> >> >> >> >> I bet some on this list have been through this process and I’d be very >> interested to hear what worked and didn’t from those. And I would also be >> interested for any suggestions on how to accomplish this project and what >> materials to use and where to source them from those that maybe haven’t >> done it but have good thoughts on the topic. >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> David Grah >> >> Bishop California >> Montgomery 15 - Sky >> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list -- montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > To unsubscribe send an email to montgomery_boats-leave(a)mailman.xmission.com > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 244, Issue 3 > ************************************************

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Replacing Main Halyard on Montgomery 15
by David Grah 06 Jun '23

06 Jun '23

I’d like to replace the main sail halyard on my Montgomery 15. The cable has some frays and the attached line is a bit worn. Also, a few years ago I replaced the mast due to damage when a pickup rear ended the boat, and I have had occasional issues with the current halyard jamming at the mast head (which may be related to the new masthead confirmation). To address these issues, I think I would like to replace the halyard with some sort of no- or low-stretch line, but am not familiar with line types available and don’t really even know what diameter would be appropriate and how to best rig the sail end of the line. I bet some on this list have been through this process and I’d be very interested to hear what worked and didn’t from those. And I would also be interested for any suggestions on how to accomplish this project and what materials to use and where to source them from those that maybe haven’t done it but have good thoughts on the topic. Thanks in advance! David Grah Bishop California Montgomery 15 - Sky

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Plan drawing of M15
by Jim Sadler 02 Jun '23

02 Jun '23

Where can I get a plan view of the M15? Capt Jim SV Pelican Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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