October 2022 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

fin keel repair
by Rimantas Aukstuolis 13 Apr '24

13 Apr '24

I own a 1983 Montgomery 15. Last summer was my first time using the boat due to the pandemic and some other health issues but I did manage to launch and keep at a dock on Lake Pymatuning (OH/PA border) from August to September. Apparently the boat was always dry sailed, and never had anti fouling paint applied as the bottom was clean when I bought it almost three years ago. When I hauled it out (dumb me) there was algae on the bottom. I was able to get it pretty clean using a marine algae cleaner and powerwasher but I'll give it another hit in the spring. As I was powerwashing, I seem to have removed a 3" section of fiberglass from the fin keel, forward on the port side. Looks like exposed metal. Is this lead or steel? Can't see well in there. How should it be fixed/patched? I really don't want to apply anti-fouling paint and will dry sail after I modify the trailer with keel guides and slicker beds to make launch and recovery easier. Any suggestions on repair and trailer mods are appreciated. Thanks Rimantas "Ray" Aukstuolis

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MSOG Website
by Gerald Wyatt 28 Nov '22

28 Nov '22

Hi Everyone, The msog.org website has been transferred successfully and the domain name has been retained. It will take a little bit of work to get the site updated, so give me some time. Thanks again to Doug for his hard work and generosity all these years. Gerry

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Re: Help with selling modified M 15
by Dave Scobie 17 Nov '22

17 Nov '22

Ann: I recommend - Remove the pan. It looks janky. Show the boat without it present. Clean up the area under the cockpit. Vac, scrub, etc. Better would be to paint with Interlux BilgeCoat. Follow prep as outlined on the can. Make sure the edge, from cutting out the pan, isn't sharp. If need sand away edge and burrs with 120g sandpaper. Don't sand the shiny visible bits of gel coat at the edge, just round off any sharps. Like a used car clean boat sells faster and for more money. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 3:05 PM abkeeton <abkeeton(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Here it is.Lighting not great in the garage... > > > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > Date: 3/21/22 4:55 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: abkeeton <abkeeton(a)yahoo.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Help with selling modified M 15 > > Ann: > > Share a picture of what it looks like with the pan out. > > What you see is stock. Nothing added. It is how 'under space' below the > pan looks. > > There should be a couple plywood partial-bulkheads under the cockpit. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU > :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new > site! > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 2:49 PM abkeeton <abkeeton(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for the photos. >> I see what you mean. Yours looks great. >> Honestly, I don't know who would do that kind of work or how much it >> would cost. Also, you have an insert. In my boat, the guy put a piece of >> plywood down below, which also looks terrible. >> >> >> >> Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> >> Date: 3/21/22 4:35 PM (GMT-06:00) >> To: abkeeton <abkeeton(a)yahoo.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Help with selling modified M 15 >> >> Thanks for sharing that picture Ann. >> >> You have a mess from the prior owner that results in really poor >> presentation with a have removed non-professional looking job. The pan >> needs to be removed and the edges sanded so they are straight and not >> sharp. See three pictures attached for how the locker should look (or look >> at the slideshow I have showing my M15 - >> https://m15namedscred.wordpress.com/slideshow-tour-of-scred/ ) >> >> >> :: Dave Scobie >> :: M6'8" #650 >> :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU >> :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com >> :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com >> :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new >> site! >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 2:24 PM abkeeton <abkeeton(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> When potential buyers see the cuts inside of the locker, they are >>> alarmed. One guy thought the locker must have been cut in order to fix >>> damage to the hull underneath. >>> Another guy wanted me to knock off $1,000 because the boat is damaged. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> >>> Date: 3/21/22 4:07 PM (GMT-06:00) >>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < >>> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>> Cc: abkeeton(a)yahoo.com >>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Help with selling modified M 15 >>> >>> Ann: >>> >>> Do you mean the cockpit locker pan? The pan that means you can't see >>> the inside of the hull when looking into the cockpit locker? >>> >>> My M15 had BOTH port and starboard cockpit locker pans removed. It was >>> great and allowed for effective storage of the ground tackle, fenders, dock >>> lines, etc. See link to my M15s www-site below. >>> >>> Someone(s) stating that 'you can't' have the pans cut out and use the >>> lockers???!!! Really??!! >>> >>> Most M17s don't have locker pans on the port side. >>> >>> All Sage 15s/17s/SCs don't have locker pans. >>> >>> (My Baba30 doesn't have locker pans.) >>> >>> >>> :: Dave Scobie >>> :: M6'8" #650 >>> :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU >>> :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com >>> :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com >>> :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new >>> site! >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 1:53 PM abkeeton via montgomery_boats < >>> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello,I bought the Montgomery 15 many years ago. I have stored it in >>>> the garage and never sailed it.Recently, I decided to put the boat up for >>>> sale. I discovered that a previous owner had cut the inside of the >>>> starboard locker so he could lift it out to access storage underneath. I >>>> have since seen postings on this. Some people think it's a good idea to put >>>> the anchor in there.No one I have spoken with can understand why someone >>>> would cut the fiberglass and it's killing potential sales.Should I have the >>>> locker restored?Please respond to my email address.Thanks much,Ann >>>> Keeton Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >>> >>> >>>

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MSOG.org
by Rusty Knorr 17 Nov '22

17 Nov '22

When I go to the MSOG.org site there is nothing there but the splash page. None of the menus at the top are there or working links. I know there is a transfer in place, just wondering if it’s working for anyone else yet. Rusty (Still looking for my forever M15) www.rustyknorr.weebly.com > On Oct 6, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Just need the boat lifted so one can remove the rotation pin and drop the > board. See discussion within this email listproc's archives, MSOG.org, > MSOGphotosite.com and the FB group. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU > :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com > > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 08:30 Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: >> >> Wow. This sounds complicated. Maybe I should have it done professionally. >> Any places in Seattle? I don’t mind driving 500 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Oct 6, 2022, at 09:22, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> If you are seeing damage to the existing line replace with 5/16" double >>> braid. The trick is to cut away about 4" of the internal core and use >> that >>> part to tie off at the CenterBoard, making the 8-knot small enough to >> fit >>> properly in the CB Trunk. >>> >>> Be aware it is very possible you will not be able to get the board to >> over >>> extend far enough to access the hole/opening that the pennant passes and >>> the 8-knot sets. >>> >>> Be careful over extending the board as it can damage the forward end of >> the >>> trunk. >>> >>> >>> :: Dave Scobie >>> :: M6'8" #650 >>> :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU >>> :: former owner SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com >>> :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com >>> :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 07:59 Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < >>>> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi folks: >>>> Decided to replace the line on my centerboard (M15) Chinook Breeze scuba >>>> diving at the reservoir this weekend. What size line is best and how >> long? >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Pete WinterSky >>>> (Zimowsky) >>>> >>>> San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush >>>> >>>> outdoors writer and photographer >>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky >>>> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors >>>> The Northwest Outdoors Journey: >>>> https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ >>>> >>>> "We Can Not Control the Wind >>>> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" >>>> >>>> >>

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WrinkleBoat 2023
by Gary H.Oberbeck 03 Nov '22

03 Nov '22

WrinkleBoat for 2023 February 17-19,2023 Lake Pleasant,AZ In conjunction with the Arizona Yacht Club Birthday Regatta ‘Cruiser Race’. Optional (but highly encouraged) low stress distance race, please help us show the largest fleet and enter AzYC Birthday Regatta for 'Cruising Race'. Details to follow for YC race. The group will be moored and or camping at North end of lake, (access by water only) see photos. All Wrinkleboats, pocket cruisers 22'<, cruising dinghies, homebuilds welcome! Participants encouraged to register for AzYC Birthday Regatta- please support the club as they have been supportive of this group over the years! 2022 was last minute event due to pandemic concerns, but we have found a beautiful location for the ran-tan cove. Email with any questions, I will post link to AzYC regatta when it is online. (Arizonayachtclub.org) We look forward to seeing you there! message me if you have questions, Have fUn, go sailing! GO M-15 #330 ‘Cahoots’

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M15 Specifications
by George Iemmolo 27 Oct '22

27 Oct '22

Having achieved 90yrs of age and sailed my M15, (Bucket List item), on the Rappahannock River this month out of Windmill Point, VA (Daughters home) I am ready to 'Swallow the Anchor' I am putting my M15 up for sale. I have misplaced my Spec sheet and was wondering if I could get one of the list members to respond with the information.so I can list my M15. Need LOA, LWL,Width,Weight, Depth CB up & CB down, Sail Area, Mast height @ WL. Will continue to lurk on the list now that I am an Armchair Sailor. Thanks for the many years of advice and information shared on the list . George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602 "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"

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Anybody else want an M 7'11"?
by Josh ua 20 Oct '22

20 Oct '22

I am in the geographic center of the USA. My 7'11" is not posted anywhere. I like driving. Fully rigged with all the hardware plus oars and locks. Don't want to start a discussion here so e-mail me. Jsheintz(a)gmail.com > >

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M-8 Rudder and Centerboard
by David Grah 19 Oct '22

19 Oct '22

My brother was lucky enough to purchase the Montgomery 8 recently posted on the Seattle Craigslist page. He says the boat looks great, especially for the price, came with a full sail rig, but is missing the centerboard and rudder. Does anyone have any information on what the rudder and centerboard should be for the boat so new ones can be fabricated? Or, even better, does anyone happen to have a rudder and centerboard for an M-8 laying around? David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky

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Finally - angle wedges under jib sheet swivel cam cleats
by John Schinnerer 16 Oct '22

16 Oct '22

I put these swivel cam cleats for jib sheets on quite a while back now, but only early this summer finally made these angle wedges to level them up. Here's pics of before (mounted flat on angled coaming top); the wedges (fabbed from 1/2" kingboard/starboard); and after. The angle now is just right, pretty much level relative to cockpit seats and floor. Was angled up too much without these. Another small but significant refinement...! cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Re: Main Sail Traveller
by sailhavasu 15 Oct '22

15 Oct '22

Hi Jason. Mine had the original setup in it when I go it. Here’s a couple of photos. > On Oct 12, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Jason Leckie <leckie.jas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Would someone be able to send me a picture of their main sail traveller > system? The previous owner of my boat removed it so that the lower block on > my main sheet is attached at fixed point in middle of the cockpit. It works > fine but it would be nice to bring it back to the original design of the > boat which most of you likely have. > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > Jason Leckie > > Kuma > M17 Hull #340 1980

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