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Re: Anchoring m 15
by kicker_fixer 12 Nov '21

12 Nov '21

Hi guys , like to add my two cents to the core discussion. My 1975 M17 # 79 has half round ribs under the fore deck no core . If the deck had been cored with balsa she would have been in the land fill 20+ yrs ago hooray for solid decks and hulls . The only weak point on the boat as built was / is iron ballast Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> Date: 10/24/21 6:33 PM (GMT-06:00) To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Anchoring m 15 BLOG post I linked before has details. There is also a video linked inthat post - the boat used is a Sage 17 but process same as M15/17 and Sage15 & SageCat.:: Dave Scobie:: M6'8" #650:: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU:: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com:: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com:: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 4:29 PM sheppardtb via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote:> I have a M 15 and would like " blow by blow" on anchoring from> cockpit.Dave Scobie and others might help me out.Sent from my T-Mobile 4G> LTE Device

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Jackery solar
by Jim Sadler 07 Nov '21

07 Nov '21

Any skippers use Jackery for power Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Outboard generator
by Jim Sadler 07 Nov '21

07 Nov '21

Looking for small OB that will power my tiller pilot Capt Jim M15 Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Subject: Fuel transfer at ses
by David Grah 06 Nov '21

06 Nov '21

We use a 3.5 gallon (sometimes a 6 gallon) plastic fuel tank secured in the back of the cockpit. We use a rubber fuel hose with a rubber bulb pump to pump fuel from the plastic tank through a modified fuel cap on the motor and periodically fill the tank on the motor. The cap is modified by drilling a hole in the middle of it and screwing in a fitting to take the rubber hose. We usually get a couple of hours on a tank in the motor so end up pumping it full every hour or so if we are motoring continuously. Usually takes 10 to 30 squeezes of the bulb to fill the tank back up. It is a system I learned about in this forum and works great. David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 04:09:44 +0000 From: Jim Sadler <jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> Subject: M_Boats: Fuel transfer at ses To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <BY5PR13MB3859156E1A7AA57D6CB16EABD58E9(a)BY5PR13MB3859.nam prd13.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" How do you add fuel to outboard motor in rough sea? Capt Jim SV Pelican M15 Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ------------------------------

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Re: Subject: Fuel transfer at ses
by David Grah 06 Nov '21

06 Nov '21

We secure our tank with a strap to a folding pad eye (if that is the correct term) I put in the back bottom of the cockpit. When the tank is in the boat we leave the vent open the whole time. If we're not on a trip, the tank is out of the boat. Sometimes I accidentally leave the tank in the sun off the boat with the vent closed and it seems to just puff up without obvious damage or leaks. I usually don't store the tank with gas in it for long. David Grah Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2021 09:03:26 -0700 From: Alex Conley <conley.alex(a)gmail.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Subject: Fuel transfer at ses To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <CACj3+t+SD0fnoHoDVEVEZC_sEL6gLw6VpzbsORer=HMceRdA_A(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dave n others, how are you securing the fuel tank in the back of the cockpit (added eyes for a bungee?) and what do you do to vent the tank and keep it from heating up in the sun- just leave the vent open all the time? Or some kind of pressure valve? I’d love a setup I could leave in place but given our sunny berth and the m15s lack of an isolated gas locker, I take the gas can home after every sail. Daydream of a wooden locker that would fit in stern where I could leave tank out of sun, but can’t decide if it’s over complicating things. Thanks other Dave for the detailed notes on fuel usage-that went straight to my boat notes for future trip planning! Alex

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Re: M15 outboard HP
by Dave Scobie 06 Nov '21

06 Nov '21

Jim: Is your outboard a Honda 2? The Honda 2 will easily, as other have stayed, motor the M15 at 4-4.5 knots. I've used a Honda 2 on a Sage 17 that weighs 450#-ish. More than a M15 at 4.5knots at 1/2-throttle. M15 is a non-planing hull. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Sat, Nov 6, 2021, 3:49 AM Jim Sadler <jimsadler(a)jascopacific.com> wrote: Any skippers know the hull speed of M15? My 2 hp will get the Pelican to 3.5 knts. To exceed hull speed would require that the vessel plane any exponentially more HP. That is my understanding Capt Jim

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Fuel transfer at ses
by Jim Sadler 06 Nov '21

06 Nov '21

How do you add fuel to outboard motor in rough sea? Capt Jim SV Pelican M15 Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Jib
by Peter Zimowsky 05 Nov '21

05 Nov '21

Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks, Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"

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Anchoring m 15
by sheppardtb 03 Nov '21

03 Nov '21

I have a M 15 and would like " blow by blow" on anchoring from cockpit.Dave Scobie and others might help me out.Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

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Historical M17 mainsail trivia
by John Schinnerer 03 Nov '21

03 Nov '21

My M17 hull #38 came with a used/newer North Sails main in reasonably good shape. It also came with what I believed was the original main, which was already folded up nicely. Since it was boltrope instead of slugs like the North, and felt pretty soft, and I didn't have a good space at the time to open it up and check it out, and wasn't going to use it, it has remained folded and stored, until earlier this evening. In attempting to put it in a storage bin, I was reminded that it still had the battens in, and I couldn't fold it the way I wanted so it would fit in the bin. I opened it up and found the battens sewn in (pockets sewn shut at leach end). I also found the label, which shows it's an original Reggie Armstrong main - with one deep reef, three battens, nylon plastic head reinforcement plate, and a big letter "M" (no "17" though). And, I had seen the number "8" on an exposed fold when I first got it, so I figured it had "38" on it to match my hull number. But it turns out it has only "8" on it (both sides of sail). No sign of a "3" ever being there next to the "8". So I'm guessing it's the original Reggie Armstrong main for M17 hull #8...? How it ended up with #38, who knows...if anyone has #8 and wants to claim it for historical purposes, just let me know! ;-) cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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