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m 15 tller
by carlos navarro 21 Jul '19

21 Jul '19

James, on my last lake sail, decided my tiller could be longer, so today started building a rough longer tiller to try, my original was 35 1/2 will make the rough tiller 42 inches if i like it will finished, with varnish,😬

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towing issue
by brad kurlancheek 16 Jul '19

16 Jul '19

Good news - my Rogue with a towing capacity of 1102 lbs, towed my M15 some 90 miles, with no problems. No overheating, no problems going up hills, no problems braking. It was a bare-bones tow - left the boom and rudder/tiller and most of the gear at home. Its a cvt (continuous variable transmission), with an option to downshift to lower gears. I generally drove in speed 5 on hills, and speed 6 on flat areas and down hill. No problems, gratefully. Thanks to all for advice and suggestions. On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 2:01 PM < montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Towing issues (GARY M HYDE) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 14:20:30 -0700 > From: GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> > To: Rusty Knorr <rustyinafrica(a)yahoo.com>, For and about Montgomery > Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Towing issues > Message-ID: <18D5F7E0-5056-4449-8D26-10B8254508D7(a)mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Rusty: > I used to own Vanilla and towed her with a 2001 Forester, no problem. Also > towed an M17 with a 2004 Forester with turbo for about 10,000 miles. No > problem. > Glad Vanilla is getting some use. Enjoy! > GARY ~~~~_/) ~~~~ > Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad > judgment. > Injustice anywhere threatens justice everywhere. > > > On Jul 10, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > > > I just had my Subie oil changed and had them check my brake fluid, all > was perfect after towing a half dozen times or so this year. The dealer > assured me the transmission would have no issues so I?m feeling a little > more at ease towing my M-15 Vanilla wherever I want to go. > > > > Rusty > > > > www.rustyknorr.weebly.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 197, Issue 12 > ************************************************* >

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Towing issues
by Rusty Knorr 13 Jul '19

13 Jul '19

I just had my Subie oil changed and had them check my brake fluid, all was perfect after towing a half dozen times or so this year. The dealer assured me the transmission would have no issues so I’m feeling a little more at ease towing my M-15 Vanilla wherever I want to go. Rusty www.rustyknorr.weebly.com

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Towing issues
by Rusty Knorr 11 Jul '19

11 Jul '19

Well geez, Peter! It sounds like I need to get out there and try some new cruising grounds! That’s encouraging, thanks for the info.

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Tow weight issues
by Rusty Knorr 09 Jul '19

09 Jul '19

I tow my M-15 with a 2016 Subaru Outback, and I get around 26mpg while towing. Although I was super nervous about it, not having any towing experience, it has handled it fine so far. That being said, I know I’m shortening the lifespan of the clutch and transmission, it’s an inevitable result of towing. And I’m definitely keeping to lowland towing! Much as I would like to, I don’t see myself taking it over the mountains, it’s not worth the risk to me, or the wear on the car. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 197, Issue 8
by Steve R. 09 Jul '19

09 Jul '19

George, Look for the link near the top of every email "To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit" . Follow the link. At the bottom of the page you will see an additional option: *montgomery_boats Subscribers* (*The subscribers list is only available to the list members.*) Enter your address and password to visit the subscribers list: ================================================= Follow these instructions and you will see everyone who publicly accepts emails. If you forgot your password you may request that a new password is emailed to you. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington KY now - Green Cove Spring FL sometime soon <sniped> > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 12:10:39 -0500 > From: George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> > > How does one contact a list member off list? I whish to contact Connie > Benneck regarding his books and as much of the discussion is not Montgomery > oriented I do not wish to violate the list rules and post here. > > Thanks > George > Merry Helen II > 96 M15 602 > >

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List Members
by George Iemmolo 09 Jul '19

09 Jul '19

How does one contact a list member off list? I whish to contact Connie Benneck regarding his books and as much of the discussion is not Montgomery oriented I do not wish to violate the list rules and post here. Thanks George Merry Helen II 96 M15 602 "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"

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Re: M_Boats: M-17 questions round 2 - reefing setups
by John Schinnerer 07 Jul '19

07 Jul '19

On 7/5/19 3:59 AM, Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats wrote: > John, you mentioned cheek blocks and clamcleats on starboard side of your boom for clew reefing; are there some form of eye straps used as anchor points on the port side? Yep, exactly. Just ordinary eye straps, something like the small one of these two is fine: https://www.duckworks.com/product-p/rl-311-parent.htm > And can you describe how your outhaul is configured? At the rear of my boom is a what I think is called a terminal eye strap. For now I put a D shackle through it, ran the outhaul line through it, and then ran it forward to the port side clamcleat shown in my earlier photo (you mentioned it was possibly for a topping lift). It seems to work fine temporarily, but should I have some block in use there? That will get you sailing, but better to have it on starboard side (so you can use the topping lift cleat for topping lift, and, because generally we want reefing controls on starboard side, because generally we reef when hove to on starboard tack, because then technically your boat has certain rights of way that you wouldn't have on port tack, just in case...) See attached pics of my boom...not necessarily in order of description below... One shows detail of outhaul - a very small block attached with small shackle to the strap with eye at aft end of boom like yours (sometimes called a 'spin strap', no idea why). Outhaul goes through that block, down across one side of a cheek block to redirect it, and then forward to a clamcleat with fairlead. One pic shows aft end with outhaul, cheek blocks for outhaul and first reef. Another shows the three clamcleats - lower one for outhaul, upper two for 1st and 2nd reef respectively (no line in place for 2nd reef in pics). The cleats are positioned for easy working from forward part of cockpit, and also so the excess line when reefed hangs into the companionway rather than being underfoot in the cockpit. Another shows most of the boom from aft end to clamcleats, so you can see the whole setup. Cheek block forward of the other two is for 2nd reef line. And one pic shows the other (port) side of the boom, with little cheek block for topping lift and eye strap for termination of 1st reef line. If you just tie the line to the clew reefing grommet and then down through the block you don't need that of course. It's only needed for running the line 2:1 from port side thru grommet to block on starboard side. The way my outhaul is rigged - sliding loop around boom then thru grommet to outhaul block - is a nifty trick that functions as both outhaul and clew strap at the same time and is mostly self-adjusting (a clew strap is otherwise as separate line or webbing to hold the clew close to the boom). The Swiss cheese effect here and there on my boom is merely a result of moving and/or replacing most all the hardware from the previously installed setup. HTH, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Tow weight issues
by brad kurlancheek 07 Jul '19

07 Jul '19

I'm debating whether there'd be a problem towing my Montgomery 15 about 75 miles down uneventful highway, with a Nissan Rogue to a marine slip I've reserved. The Rogue's tow capacity is about 1102 lbs. I figure my M15 weighs about 775 to 800 lbs incl mast and rigging. Gear (in car) will be about 100 lbs, and the trailer weighs 360 lbs. So total boat + trailer weight would be 1160 lb., surpassing tow capacity by 58 lbs. I'm 145 lbs and gear in car will be no more than 100 lbs. I used to drive a truck with 4000 lbs capacity so never had to worry about this. So now I'm wondering if a 75 mile drive @ 50 to 100 lbs over tow capacity is just a really dumb idea, or something that I shouldn't worry about, since it's basically no more than a one time trip every 6 months. Thanks

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What is my headsail?
by Gerry Lempicki 06 Jul '19

06 Jul '19

We've come to question what this headsail is; we've found no markings on it, but it does not go all the way up to the masthead. It also goes a bit behind the mast but not a lot. Do you have any thoughts? I saw mention somewhere that many M17s are sailed with 150 genoas; would that be recommended for inland fresh water with lighter wind? Our mainsail looks fairly new and has a PS logo on it;. Any thoughts on the manufacturer? Thank you! -Gerry

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