Loose footed main or bolt rope? Need to decide before I order sails. I've
never had a loose footed main but I know lots of people like them. Anybody
wish to contribute to my education by listing the advantages and
disadvantages of each?
Mark Dvorscak
M23 Faith
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 22:06 <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
> I'd use no-stretch, and make the jib halyard 5/16; the size is needed to
> make it hold on the winch and in the cleat.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Dvorscak
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:20 PM
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: M23 halyards
>
> Thanks for the info. Mine are all line and appear to be about 12mm. I think
> I should be able to go down to 8 mm without any problems...
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 16:38 <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org wrote:
>
> > Originally I used spliced halyards; probably 1/4 line on the main, and
> > 5/16
> > on the jib. 1/8 7X19 wire on all.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Dvorscak
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 7:27 PM
> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> > Subject: M_Boats: M23 halyards
> >
> > Anybody know what the original halyard line size was on the M23? Mine
> feel
> > like they are a little large for the sheave and I'm thinking of ordering
> > some new ones.
> > Mark Dvorscak
> > M23 Faith
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 08:31 Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > Gary,
> > >
> > > The further from home you roam, the more equipment you need on board to
> > > take care of the "unexpected" situations you will encounter.
> > >
> > > From my big boat experience: on my M15 I carried three anchors; a
> small
> > > Bruce; a small aluminum Danforth; and a small Fortress that I found at
> a
> > > Tag Sale. These covered sand, mud, rocky bottoms, with the Fortress
> > > being a storm anchor with lots of chain and a very long rode.
> > >
> > > Then you need a fender board. This is just a 2" X 3" about 36" long,
> > > longer is better, with a lanyard at each end.
> > >
> > > If you try to tie up to a dock with pilings, and with a tide range, the
> > > problem is that the boat will move so how do you keep the horizontal
> > > fender against the piling? The answer is a fender board. You drop
> two
> > > fenders; adjust their height; and then outboard of the fenders, you
> hang
> > > the fender board. The fender board can rub against barnacles; it's
> > > replaceable;, but it protects your hull from damage.
> > >
> > > Now you have a 36" long surface that goes up against the piling; the
> > > boat can move (waves / power boat wakes / tide) and the M15/M17 is
> > > safely moored.
> > >
> > > OFF CENTER HARBOR website has a video showing you a neat way to rig
> your
> > > anchors, one in deep water the other at the beach, so that you can get
> > > ashore, but then pull a line that moves the boat out to deeper water
> for
> > > safety overnight. The retrieve line is at the beach, or on board, so
> in
> > > the morning you pull on the line and the boat comes ashore so that you
> > > can board, or go ashore again.
> > >
> > > Happy sailing,
> > >
> > > Connie
> > >
> > > On 11/29/2018 11:03 AM, Chuck via montgomery_boats wrote:
> > > > When us the LPM?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Gary Oberbeck via montgomery_boats<
> > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>
> > > > To: montgomery_boats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>
> > > > Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2018 8:30 am
> > > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lake Pleasant AZ Winter Messabout ( replacing
> > > WrinkleBoat Ran Tan for 2019)
> > > >
> > > > I'll take it's picture the next time I go to the Lake!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: doug<doug9326(a)gmail.com>
> > > > To: Gary Oberbeck<gilasailr(a)aol.com>; For and about Montgomery
> > > Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>
> > > > Sent: Tue, Nov 27, 2018 1:11 pm
> > > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lake Pleasant AZ Winter Messabout ( replacing
> > > WrinkleBoat Ran Tan for 2019)
> > > >
> > > > Thats funny. How about a sand anchor, dirt anchor. How far is that
> > > closest tree???
> > > >
> > > >> On Nov 27, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Gary Oberbeck via montgomery_boats<
> > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Which tree??
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: jerry<jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org>
> > > >> To: PHILIP MCCOWIN<pmcc_imagen(a)mac.com>; For and about Montgomery
> > > Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>
> > > >> Sent: Tue, Nov 27, 2018 12:45 pm
> > > >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lake Pleasant AZ Winter Messabout ( replacing
> > > WrinkleBoat Ran Tan for 2019)
> > > >>
> > > >> And we're going to have a fishing contest, and if successful, eat
> > > >> some
> > > fish.
> > > >> Dynamite is not allowed unless you bring a chainsaw to get the fish
> > out
> > > of
> > > >> the trees.
> > > >>
> > > >> Be good to see you there, Phil.
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: PHILIP MCCOWIN via montgomery_boats
> > > >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 3:59 PM
> > > >> To: Gary Oberbeck ; For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> > > >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lake Pleasant AZ Winter Messabout ( replacing
> > > >> WrinkleBoat Ran Tan for 2019)
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Gary,
> > > >>
> > > >> Not involved with the Leukemia Cup Debacle? So, sailing for fun
> > > >> instead?
> > > >> Sounds Good, maybe the Long Steps will be ready!
> > > >>
> > > >> Phil
> > > >>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gary Oberbeck via montgomery_boats
> > > >>> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Lake Pleasant, AZ Winter Messabout
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> On Jan 11, 2019 16:38, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
>
> Originally I used spliced halyards; probably 1/4 line on the main, and 5/16
> on the jib. 1/8 7X19 wire on all.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Dvorscak
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 7:27 PM
> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> Subject: M_Boats: M23 halyards
>
> Anybody know what the original halyard line size was on the M23? Mine feel
> like they are a little large for the sheave and I'm thinking of ordering
> some new ones.
> Mark Dvorscak
> M23 Faith
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 08:31 Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Gary,
> >
> > The further from home you roam, the more equipment you need on board to
> > take care of the "unexpected" situations you will encounter.
> >
> > From my big boat experience: on my M15 I carried three anchors; a small
> > Bruce; a small aluminum Danforth; and a small Fortress that I found at a
> > Tag Sale. These covered sand, mud, rocky bottoms, with the Fortress
> > being a storm anchor with lots of chain and a very long rode.
> >
> > Then you need a fender board. This is just a 2" X 3" about 36" long,
> > longer is better, with a lanyard at each end.
> >
> > If you try to tie up to a dock with pilings, and with a tide range, the
> > problem is that the boat will move so how do you keep the horizontal
> > fender against the piling? The answer is a fender board. You drop two
> > fenders; adjust their height; and then outboard of the fenders, you hang
> > the fender board. The fender board can rub against barnacles; it's
> > replaceable;, but it protects your hull from damage.
> >
> > Now you have a 36" long surface that goes up against the piling; the
> > boat can move (waves / power boat wakes / tide) and the M15/M17 is
> > safely moored.
> >
> > OFF CENTER HARBOR website has a video showing you a neat way to rig your
> > anchors, one in deep water the other at the beach, so that you can get
> > ashore, but then pull a line that moves the boat out to deeper water for
> > safety overnight. The retrieve line is at the beach, or on board, so in
> > the morning you pull on the line and the boat comes ashore so that you
> > can board, or go ashore again.
> >
> > Happy sailing,
> >
> > Connie
> >
> > On 11/29/2018 11:03 AM, Chuck via montgomery_boats wrote:
> > > When us the LPM?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gary Oberbeck via montgomery_boats<
> > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>
> > > To: montgomery_boats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>
> > > Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2018 8:30 am
> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lake Pleasant AZ Winter Messabout ( replacing
> > WrinkleBoat Ran Tan for 2019)
> > >
> > > I'll take it's picture the next time I go to the Lake!
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: doug<doug9326(a)gmail.com>
> > > To: Gary Oberbeck<gilasailr(a)aol.com>; For and about Montgomery
> > Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, Nov 27, 2018 1:11 pm
> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lake Pleasant AZ Winter Messabout ( replacing
> > WrinkleBoat Ran Tan for 2019)
> > >
> > > Thats funny. How about a sand anchor, dirt anchor. How far is that
> > closest tree???
> > >
> > >> On Nov 27, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Gary Oberbeck via montgomery_boats<
> > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Which tree??
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: jerry<jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org>
> > >> To: PHILIP MCCOWIN<pmcc_imagen(a)mac.com>; For and about Montgomery
> > Sailboats<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>
> > >> Sent: Tue, Nov 27, 2018 12:45 pm
> > >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lake Pleasant AZ Winter Messabout ( replacing
> > WrinkleBoat Ran Tan for 2019)
> > >>
> > >> And we're going to have a fishing contest, and if successful, eat some
> > fish.
> > >> Dynamite is not allowed unless you bring a chainsaw to get the fish
> out
> > of
> > >> the trees.
> > >>
> > >> Be good to see you there, Phil.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: PHILIP MCCOWIN via montgomery_boats
> > >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 3:59 PM
> > >> To: Gary Oberbeck ; For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> > >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Lake Pleasant AZ Winter Messabout ( replacing
> > >> WrinkleBoat Ran Tan for 2019)
> > >>
> > >> Hi Gary,
> > >>
> > >> Not involved with the Leukemia Cup Debacle? So, sailing for fun
> > >> instead?
> > >> Sounds Good, maybe the Long Steps will be ready!
> > >>
> > >> Phil
> > >>> On Nov 16, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Gary Oberbeck via montgomery_boats
> > >>> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Lake Pleasant, AZ Winter Messabout
> >
>
>
>
