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M 10 sailing dink.
by islandinspired＠earthlink.net 11 Apr '18

11 Apr '18

Hi all, Searching for an M 10 sailing dink. Prefer one that is in reasonable condition. I’m a former Montgomery aka ‘wrinkleboat’ employee from the late 60s and 70s. Fun job, great memories! Marty (949)547-1000. Sent from my iPhone

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M-12
by jerry＠jerrymontgomery.org 10 Apr '18

10 Apr '18

Marty- how about a 12 instead of a ten? Gary O just called and there is a black one for sail on Craig’s list-San Francisco and guess what? it’s my old boat; the one I raced in Newport about the time you were working for me. it has no sails or hiking straps, so what I’d do is make it into a cat rig. You might remember that I had one, and sailed it in the Yachting Mag. One-of-a-kind race in about ‘72 ish. If I didn’t have a Banshee, which has an active local fleet, I’d snap it up. If interested I’ll pick it up for you. I don’t know your address or I’d PM you. Mine is jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org.

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Boom Specs (mast question)
by Dave Scobie 09 Apr '18

09 Apr '18

Mike: A good number of the M17's have the slot for the gooseneck/sail that low ... it is clear that the slot on my mast was originally higher as you can see where the slot was closed using plyers and the lower one opened. My main has slugs and this orientation required me to push the sail up into the mast when I rig the boat. Talk with Harry at E/P Sailmakers. He knows the boat. using what you have he can confirm the measurements for a boat of your vintage. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Mike Barnett < claritysailingadventures(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks for the help... knowing where the bottom of your sail track cutout > is might help too (it appears my gooseneck will be right under the cutout > on my mast). > > Given that I'm working with a lot of unknowns, I'm going to get my main > made pretty close to the original specs - I can make it work with all the > stuff I've got! > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com > > > On Monday, April 9, 2018, 11:00:35 AM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Mike: > > The sail goes as close to the masthead as I can get it. When I first got > the boat I couldn't do this as the halyard had an eye to hold the headboard > shackle and the resulting diameter of the line wouldn't fit into the > masthead fitting. I cut off the eye and tied the shackle with a bowline. > > I can measure where the gooesneck 'floats' next time I'm at the boat. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> > :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ > :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Mike Barnett <claritysailingadventures@ > yahoo.com> wrote: > > Dave, > > When you hoist your main, how close to the top of your mast would you say > the head of the sail is? Trying to figure out the ideal luff measurement > for my boat's mainsail (I don't have an original, and I'm questioning the > location of the gooseneck/sail slug cutout). > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http:// claritysailingadventures. wordpress.com > <http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com/> > > > On Monday, April 9, 2018, 10:09:36 AM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > the numbers from my M17, #375 ('83 model) - > > boom is 7'9-1/4". > > the gooseneck and aft boom fittings add 3/8" each. > > the gooseneck adds another 1 5/8". > > The outhaul block is at the aft end, so the line is turning just at the > end of the boom, on the boom's port side. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> > :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper. wordpress.com/ > <https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/> > :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings. wordpress.com/ > <https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/> > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15- name-scred > <http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred> > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Mike Barnett <claritysailingadventures@ > yahoo.com <claritysailingadventures(a)yahoo.com>> wrote: > > All three of the booms I have available have sliding goosenecks. I think > I'm going to use the boom originally off my 18' Sailbird trimaran, as it's > in the best shape, has an outhaul car, and is already set up for reefing. > I'll just need to move the mainsheet becket to a mid-boom location. > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http:// claritysailingadventures. wordpress.com > <http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com/> > > > On Saturday, April 7, 2018, 4:13:03 PM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Boom is likely about 8'3". I'll measure mine when I go to the boat > tomorrow or Monday. > > Does your boat have a sliding gooseneck? > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018, 1:50 PM Mike Barnett via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman. > xmission.com <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>> wrote: > > More fun, and more questions... I've got 3 booms, and no factory specs. > Anybody have any boom info? I'm going to be ordering a new main, and since > I don't have the original, I need to figure out which boom I have (none are > likely the original boom) will be the best choice. The most important > measurement would be the distance between the tack and clew pins at maximum > outhaul. > > > >

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Boom Specs (mast question)
by Dave Scobie 09 Apr '18

09 Apr '18

Mike: The sail goes as close to the masthead as I can get it. When I first got the boat I couldn't do this as the halyard had an eye to hold the headboard shackle and the resulting diameter of the line wouldn't fit into the masthead fitting. I cut off the eye and tied the shackle with a bowline. I can measure where the gooesneck 'floats' next time I'm at the boat. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Mike Barnett < claritysailingadventures(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Dave, > > When you hoist your main, how close to the top of your mast would you say > the head of the sail is? Trying to figure out the ideal luff measurement > for my boat's mainsail (I don't have an original, and I'm questioning the > location of the gooseneck/sail slug cutout). > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com > > > On Monday, April 9, 2018, 10:09:36 AM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > the numbers from my M17, #375 ('83 model) - > > boom is 7'9-1/4". > > the gooseneck and aft boom fittings add 3/8" each. > > the gooseneck adds another 1 5/8". > > The outhaul block is at the aft end, so the line is turning just at the > end of the boom, on the boom's port side. > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> > :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ > :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ > :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Mike Barnett <claritysailingadventures@ > yahoo.com> wrote: > > All three of the booms I have available have sliding goosenecks. I think > I'm going to use the boom originally off my 18' Sailbird trimaran, as it's > in the best shape, has an outhaul car, and is already set up for reefing. > I'll just need to move the mainsheet becket to a mid-boom location. > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http:// claritysailingadventures. wordpress.com > <http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com/> > > > On Saturday, April 7, 2018, 4:13:03 PM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Boom is likely about 8'3". I'll measure mine when I go to the boat > tomorrow or Monday. > > Does your boat have a sliding gooseneck? > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018, 1:50 PM Mike Barnett via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman. > xmission.com <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>> wrote: > > More fun, and more questions... I've got 3 booms, and no factory specs. > Anybody have any boom info? I'm going to be ordering a new main, and since > I don't have the original, I need to figure out which boom I have (none are > likely the original boom) will be the best choice. The most important > measurement would be the distance between the tack and clew pins at maximum > outhaul. > > >

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Fwd: M17 Boom Specs
by Dave Scobie 09 Apr '18

09 Apr '18

the numbers from my M17, #375 ('83 model) - boom is 7'9-1/4". the gooseneck and aft boom fittings add 3/8" each. the gooseneck adds another 1 5/8". The outhaul block is at the aft end, so the line is turning just at the end of the boom, on the boom's port side. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Mike Barnett <claritysailingadventures@ yahoo.com> wrote: > All three of the booms I have available have sliding goosenecks. I think > I'm going to use the boom originally off my 18' Sailbird trimaran, as it's > in the best shape, has an outhaul car, and is already set up for reefing. > I'll just need to move the mainsheet becket to a mid-boom location. > > Regards, > > > > Mike Barnett > > http://claritysailingadventures.wordpress.com > > > On Saturday, April 7, 2018, 4:13:03 PM EDT, Dave Scobie < > scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Boom is likely about 8'3". I'll measure mine when I go to the boat > tomorrow or Monday. > > Does your boat have a sliding gooseneck? > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018, 1:50 PM Mike Barnett via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > More fun, and more questions... I've got 3 booms, and no factory specs. > Anybody have any boom info? I'm going to be ordering a new main, and since > I don't have the original, I need to figure out which boom I have (none are > likely the original boom) will be the best choice. The most important > measurement would be the distance between the tack and clew pins at maximum > outhaul. > >

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M17 Boom Specs
by Mike Barnett 09 Apr '18

09 Apr '18

More fun, and more questions... I've got 3 booms, and no factory specs. Anybody have any boom info? I'm going to be ordering a new main, and since I don't have the original, I need to figure out which boom I have (none are likely the original boom) will be the best choice. The most important measurement would be the distance between the tack and clew pins at maximum outhaul.

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Full Length Top Batten
by Mike Barnett 08 Apr '18

08 Apr '18

Is anyone using a main with a full length top batten? I'm not particularly trying to increase the roach (although if I can, let me know... we haven't sailed ours yet so I have no way to guess re: backstay interference), just trying to get the best sail shape possible.

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Safety Equipment
by Conbert Benneck 08 Apr '18

08 Apr '18

Hi Gang, PDFs are mandatory, as are tethers when things start to get dicey; but other safety bits are needed as well. PDF's alone are good but need further safety equipment. In addition to your PDF, once you are in the water; how loudly can you yell...? ...and for how long? What is needed for each of your on-board PDFs is an attached whistle, that is a lot louder than your voice, and requires less energy to keep blowing it. Another item - if you are out at night - should be a water-activated flashing light attached to your PDF. They don't cost much; but make locating someone; or you, in the water a lot easier. Connie

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Sailing Harness & Tether
by brad kurlancheek 07 Apr '18

07 Apr '18

Hello Montgomery Sailors, I finally bit the bullet and shelled out the dough y'day for a West Marine sailing harness and tether. The harness has double D rings, and the tether is double, one 3', the other 6'. My question to the group is to see what if any Monty sailors in the 15 or 17 sail with a harness, and if so, to see what on the boat they attach themselves to. I was out on the Choptank last year having the time of my life, literally, in my M15, on a galloping exhilarating beam reach, but felt a tad bit insecure not being connected to anything. If anyone's ever been tossed (out of the cockpit, into the deep, blue sea) feel free to relate your experience, with or without wearing a harness & tethered to boat. Thanks! - Brad

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Adding vang - boom bail or eye strap?
by John Schinnerer 07 Apr '18

07 Apr '18

Hi all, Checking for any advice on attaching boom end of vang I will be adding for this season (Pajarita didn't come with any vang setup). I see some setups use a full-on bail - as for main sheet block - for the boom end block of the vang. I see some that simply use an eye strap for the boom end block of the vang. The block I have would attach fine with either. Doesn't need a bail. But could go on a bail or attach via an eye strap. Any reason I should use a full bail type of attachment, instead of just an eye strap? thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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