June 2017 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Splashed Pajarita today!
by John Schinnerer 07 Jun '17

07 Jun '17

She's in a slip in Howard Prairie reservoir, just east of Ashland, OR, to the end of this month. I had her there for a month last year also but the water was low...had to move to a buoy half way through, as the marina was grounding out. The reservoir is full for the first time in six years...sure is nice! Something like 16 or 18 feet of water under her. Keel stop bolt area fix is complete "enough" - not visually pretty but glassed & sanded good enough. Should be all solid there now, no veins/cracks for water to seep into keel any more. Stop bolt has nut protruding on one side, as later this year I want to pull the bolt, drop the CB enough to replace pennant (& shackle if worn). Only a quick shakedown sail today but the nut didn't seem to affect speed that much ;-). The teak is all lovely looking after its refinishing this spring. New battens - a couple were broken and the others were old. A few bent turnbuckle T-rods replaced; backstay bracket tops ground to better clear angle of backstay attachment toggles (still needs a tiny bit more, I was guessing with the mast down). Bow light re-mounted on 1" brown starboard round, replacing rotted/split teak round (thanks Dave Scobie for the starboard scraps!). The two best new things though...from this often singlehanded skipper's perspective: Tiller extension, Ronstan RF3129, just the perfect length for my M17 cockpit, long enough but not in the way, light, great grip, and, half the price of adjustable ones that I would never adjust, given how perfect this length is. Quick easy no moving parts tiller minder, a.k.a. a Racelite RL-46 stainless jam cleat (a whopping $4.07 from Duckworks), mounted about midway fore-aft on underside of tiller, with jam end towards bow. Used with a bungee between the aft docking line cleats - bungee runs just under tiller and behind the cleat. Pull bungee forward & slip into jam cleat...holds tiller, with some give, at whatever position desired. I'm just using a long all-purpose bungee with hooks that I had on the boat, but it could be "tuned" with a line & bungee combo to be stiffer, or lighter. And, same cleat can be an attachment point for eventual experiments with sheet-to-tiller steering. cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Mixed ballast types?
by Charlie Fortner 06 Jun '17

06 Jun '17

Greetings wrinkle boaters! Out of curiosity of my ballast type, I took a magnet to the hull of my M-15 (#411). The magnet did not stick to the keel, but it did stick to the hull from just forward of the keel to almost all the way to the bow. My boat has the hump in the floor in the forward locker. Does this mean I've got a lead keel and steel punchings in the hull? Charlie -- Charlie Fortner M-15 #411 Earth, USA, GA, Atlanta

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Hoist point for M-17
by Edward Cazier 04 Jun '17

04 Jun '17

One more question, while I’m at it. I keep my Montgomery 17 on a trailer at a marina in Seabrook, TX, where I have access to a crane that the local J-boat and Catalina racers use to hoist their boats into Clear Lake. Although there is a boat ramp nearby, it often gets very congested with other boats, especially on weekends. It would be easier to use the crane (as I did with the J-80 I had previously) to put my M-17 into the water. Has anyone else fitted their M-17 with a hoist point, and if so, how did they do it? Alternatively, has anyone constructed a sling for their M-17? Either approach would work. Thanks, Ed Cazier M-17 “Scooby Doo” - #888

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Haul Number ?
by gfroesch＠socket.net 04 Jun '17

04 Jun '17

I have a 1976 M17. MMP170950376. I am, after much delay, getting her registered. Some of my paper work shows the VIN as #95 which is the haul #. I am getting a new title for the boat. Titles were not required where it came from. Is this haul # a serial # or a model #. Is it unique to my boat, or does it indicate a haul design? I probably should use the whole # for the VIN. Any opinions? Also – the paper work identifies this boat, bought new in 1976, as a Sea King Montgomery. Does this make any sense to anyone? I’ve never heard these referred to as “Sea King”. Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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Re: M_Boats: Centerboard
by Steve w 04 Jun '17

04 Jun '17

What would cause the centerboard to swell. It hasn't been in water for years On Jun 3, 2017 10:03 AM, <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: Be really careful with that method, only a very small amount of pressure can be applied safely with a rod. I tried this when I had a truly swollen centerboard, and had to tap the rod with a hammer. The rod went straight through the centerboard, and slipped sideways damaging the hull... without budging the centerboard. Sincerely, Tyler ----- Original Message ----- From: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman. xmission.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman. xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 5:52:53 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard Steve, A friend of mine used to have the issue of a sticking board because of small pebbles and debris washing down the drain hole. He used a narrow push rod to apply pressure from the topside to get the board to move. If course he knew it was stuck from debris and not a swollen trunk. I hope it's not due to rusting steel punches. Skip M-15 #201 Wild Guppy Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh. > > Could be jammed ... Or could be rusting and swelled. > > When I have a real internet connection, currently traveling so on > smartphone, I'll look in archives for discussion on how to push the board > down if stuck from Rock, mud, shells, etc. Or someone may share methods > prior. > > I hope it isn't rusting. > > > :: Dave Scobie > >> On Jun 3, 2017 6:12 AM, "Steve w" <m35nc1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The boat was in a garage for 10 years. The owner has passed. >> >>> On Jun 3, 2017 8:10 AM, "Dave Scobie" <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Steve. >>> >>> Did the prior owner say the board was working? >>> >>> :: Dave Scobie >>> >>>> On Jun 3, 2017 5:27 AM, "Steve w" <m35nc1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Steve that's what I thought, however with the boat in the water >>> and >>>> no tension on that line the centerboard still doesn't move. I swam >> under >>>> and tried to pry with a screwdriver. It doesn't move at all. I live NC >>> in a >>>> community called Seven Lakes. That's where I'll start sailing her but >> I'd >>>> like to do some coastal cruising eventually. >>>> >>>>> On Jun 2, 2017 10:59 PM, "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Steve, >>>>> The centerboard on an M-15 is lowered by releasing the rope (line) >>>> that >>>>> is probably tied to a cleat on the seatboard across the cockpit at >> the >>>> aft >>>>> of the cabin. The centerboard cleat is next to the main-sheet cleat. >>>> Make >>>>> sure the release line (rope) is tied in the up position and securely >> to >>>> the >>>>> cleat before launching or outhauling your M-15 because any slack will >>> get >>>>> the boat stuck on the trailer. >>>>> Where do you plan to sail your M-15, what body of water, what >> state? >>>>> Steve >>>>> M-15 # 335 >>>>> South Puget Sound >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Steve w >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:49 PM >>>>> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >>>>> Subject: M_Boats: Centerboard >>>>> >>>>> I just purchased an M15 and I can't figure out how to lower the >>>>> centerboard. If someone knows where I can get an owner's manual I'd >>>>> appreciate that as well. Thanks, Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>

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Re: M_Boats: Mixed ballast types?
by Charlie Fortner 03 Jun '17

03 Jun '17

On Sat, Jun 3, 2017, at 13:04, Dave Scobie wrote: > What year listed on the HIN (last three digits)? 1988

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Montgomery 15 viewing in Washington State?
by grahamtjr＠frontier.com 03 Jun '17

03 Jun '17

Hello MSOG sailors. I am new to your forum. I live in the Wenatchee area and sail a Potter 19 and a vintage Lightning around central Washington. My interest in a smaller, easier to rig and better sailing pocket cruiser has brought me to the idea of a M15. I have seen M17,s and read extensively about the M15... but I have never seen the 15 in person. I would love to see one and determine if it could work for me as a camp cruiser to replace my Potter. So ...if anyone out there in Central WA or the west side is willing to let me stop by and check out their boat I would appreciate hearing from you. I make pretty regular trips to Seattle area and could also head over to Coeur D Alene to see one if that works. I am retired so can meet pretty much anyone's schedule. I plan to attend the Pocket Yacht Palooza in Port Townsend again this year (July 22 I think) so I hope that may also be another opportunity to see one of your M15s. Thanks. Tom Graham

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Centerboard
by Steve w 03 Jun '17

03 Jun '17

I just purchased an M15 and I can't figure out how to lower the centerboard. If someone knows where I can get an owner's manual I'd appreciate that as well. Thanks, Steve

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trailering cover for Monty 15
by Karen & Smiley 03 Jun '17

03 Jun '17

All, I contacted these guys http://www.sailorstailor.com/ but they have never made a cover for a Monty 15 so they want me to draw out a pattern for them, seems like a lot of work on my end with no discount. Does anybody have a proven vendor that has a cover designed for a 2000 vintage Monty 15. Thanks Smiley Karen & Smiley Magoo252(a)comcast.net <mailto:Magoo252@comcast.net>

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Re: M_Boats: Centerboard
by Dave Scobie 03 Jun '17

03 Jun '17

The line at the companionway that leads down through a teak block raises and lowers the board. Weight is 45# so easy to raise and lower. There should be a cleat on the teak board to secure the board when up. I'm aware of no owners manual. This email list acts as one! :-) Where are you located? :: Dave Scobie On Jun 2, 2017 7:50 PM, "Steve w" <m35nc1(a)gmail.com> wrote: I just purchased an M15 and I can't figure out how to lower the centerboard. If someone knows where I can get an owner's manual I'd appreciate that as well. Thanks, Steve

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